How many here support no political party?
Discussion
And for what reasons?
Personally i dont support any of them, but still usually vote for who I deem to be the least bad egg from the addled clutch
that is available at the time of the election.
The current batch however has me seriously puzzled as to who I would vote for this time, if any at all. The hypocrisy
between them now is unprecedented with lies and deceit seeming to emanate from every one of them by the hour.
The very worst of them from my own perspective has to be the SNP and the Lib Dems, but then Labour and the Conservatives
aren't that far behind, although I am sure plenty will argue they are in front. I think this has to be the very worst era for
politics in a long long time. If there is a GE next month I really cant see myself voting for any of them.
Personally i dont support any of them, but still usually vote for who I deem to be the least bad egg from the addled clutch
that is available at the time of the election.
The current batch however has me seriously puzzled as to who I would vote for this time, if any at all. The hypocrisy
between them now is unprecedented with lies and deceit seeming to emanate from every one of them by the hour.
The very worst of them from my own perspective has to be the SNP and the Lib Dems, but then Labour and the Conservatives
aren't that far behind, although I am sure plenty will argue they are in front. I think this has to be the very worst era for
politics in a long long time. If there is a GE next month I really cant see myself voting for any of them.
I didn't vote at the last election and can't see myself voting again unless something dramatically changes, they're all utterly useless for varying reasons. Though if i were to pick a party i definitely don't want to get in (besides the lunatics like the BNP, Brexit Party, UKIP etc) then it would be Labour, especially whilst lead by Corbyn
Parties are always changing and drifting around the political spectrum as do the people running them and their policies.
I don’t support any party, I just look around when it’s an election and see who I think will do the best job.
Just like a utility provider when it’s time to renew a contract or deciding where to eat or which shop to buy a product from.
Look at the options gather some information and make a decision.
I don’t support any party, I just look around when it’s an election and see who I think will do the best job.
Just like a utility provider when it’s time to renew a contract or deciding where to eat or which shop to buy a product from.
Look at the options gather some information and make a decision.
The term "politically homeless" was used a while back and that describes me. I'm pretty apolitical really, probably right of centre if pushed, but even if I wasn't, not one of the current shower deserve my vote, IMO. I can't see any reason to actively vote for any of the current offerings but I'd probably end up feeling that I had to vote Con simply in order to keep the even-worse options out.
I'm not well represented by any party nationally as a centre/centre right libertarian.
Tend to vote Lib Dem for local council as they do a pretty good job (at least locally to me)
Tories tend to be too authoritarian for me these days though they have some good policies and I'm more free market than socialist. May was too authoritarian and inner circle only. Cameron was slick but I didn't really click with him. Major was quite old school, last of the non-spin doctor orchestrated PMs battling a party divided over Europe.
New Labour had some very good socially progressive policies that I really liked (though I never voted for them) but on the other hand they mastered nanny state and boom/bust. I thought early Blair was impressive though he squandered the majority and didn't drive real change in the civil service, etc, just spent money. I thought Brown was a dreadful PM, except on the importance of the Union. As Chancellor he was poor, except for his very clever "5 tests" to prevent us entering the Euro. Miliband... well, just no. His brother, maybe. Corbyn is toxic.
Lib dems nationally are a bit of a joke though I had time for Paddy Ashdown.
I guess it leaves me as a reluctant, slightly homeless Tory who might contemplate a centrist, internationalist Labour leader.
Tend to vote Lib Dem for local council as they do a pretty good job (at least locally to me)
Tories tend to be too authoritarian for me these days though they have some good policies and I'm more free market than socialist. May was too authoritarian and inner circle only. Cameron was slick but I didn't really click with him. Major was quite old school, last of the non-spin doctor orchestrated PMs battling a party divided over Europe.
New Labour had some very good socially progressive policies that I really liked (though I never voted for them) but on the other hand they mastered nanny state and boom/bust. I thought early Blair was impressive though he squandered the majority and didn't drive real change in the civil service, etc, just spent money. I thought Brown was a dreadful PM, except on the importance of the Union. As Chancellor he was poor, except for his very clever "5 tests" to prevent us entering the Euro. Miliband... well, just no. His brother, maybe. Corbyn is toxic.
Lib dems nationally are a bit of a joke though I had time for Paddy Ashdown.
I guess it leaves me as a reluctant, slightly homeless Tory who might contemplate a centrist, internationalist Labour leader.
Yes, Pretty much that.
Economically right but liberal with it.
I've voted Tory traditionally but also Labour and even Lib Dems at one point. Depends on who I think will do best for my family and me and then the country.
Both the majors are in a mess right now. We need brexit out of the way so we can deal with everything else.
Economically right but liberal with it.
I've voted Tory traditionally but also Labour and even Lib Dems at one point. Depends on who I think will do best for my family and me and then the country.
Both the majors are in a mess right now. We need brexit out of the way so we can deal with everything else.
I honestly think the current crop, ALL of them, have shown how disconnected and self serving they are. Not one I have seen / heard lately has impressed me enough to vote for them in the coming GE we keep hearing mentioned. What would happen if the next GE had a zero turn out? I know it would never happen but how else can we show the shower of s
t just what we think of them?
If Zero turn out, who Governs?
t just what we think of them?If Zero turn out, who Governs?
El stovey said:
Parties are always changing and drifting around the political spectrum as do the people running them and their policies.
I don’t support any party, I just look around when it’s an election and see who I think will do the best job.
Just like a utility provider when it’s time to renew a contract or deciding where to eat or which shop to buy a product from.
Look at the options gather some information and make a decision.
A wise approachI don’t support any party, I just look around when it’s an election and see who I think will do the best job.
Just like a utility provider when it’s time to renew a contract or deciding where to eat or which shop to buy a product from.
Look at the options gather some information and make a decision.
As long as they abide by their contract, in the form of their manifesto, of course
Short Grain said:
I honestly think the current crop, ALL of them, have shown how disconnected and self serving they are. Not one I have seen / heard lately has impressed me enough to vote for them in the coming GE we keep hearing mentioned. What would happen if the next GE had a zero turn out? I know it would never happen but how else can we show the shower of st just what we think of them?
If Zero turn out, who Governs?
Well you could assume that the MP would vote for themselves, so zero turnout would be improbable. In the event of a tie (it has happened) a returning officer has a number of ways to declare a winner.t just what we think of them?If Zero turn out, who Governs?
So I guess even with 0 votes, an MP would still be returned.
I'm a floating voter and will go with the one that matches most of what's important to me and my family. I did an online survey a few years ago which had a whole host of topics. I scored each one and at the end it matches my responses to the political party that would address these according to their manifestos. Things like NHS, policing, education, etc. For example if you have kids and are worried about the cost of higher education then the certain parties would score lower on your responses. If that wasn't a concern to you but you were more bothered about policing then another party will score higher, etc.
The answer I came out with was a surprise to me and different to who I had voted for previously. I was financially better off with this particular party and also it matched more of what concerned me. No party matches 100% so you've got to go with the one that represents you the most. That's why I'd not argue if someone said they had voted for a different party to me because at the end of the day, they might be better off under a that party.
At this stage, with people I know, die hard Labour supporters are flocking to the Tories as they are behind Boris and his hard stance on Brexit. They also won't support Corbyn. This is the biggest shift for me. People like my brother who is Labour through and through won't support Labour for the first time in his adult life. Others who are die hard Tories, won't support the Tories anymore because of the shambles that has unfolded in the last 3 years and also because they are remainers and don't like the way Boris has conducted himself. There are others who would never have voted Lib Dems who are now supporting them as they have a very strong stance on remaining in the EU.
Whoever you go for, the political landscape has completely changed (in the UK at least) and we have some interesting times ahead.
The answer I came out with was a surprise to me and different to who I had voted for previously. I was financially better off with this particular party and also it matched more of what concerned me. No party matches 100% so you've got to go with the one that represents you the most. That's why I'd not argue if someone said they had voted for a different party to me because at the end of the day, they might be better off under a that party.
At this stage, with people I know, die hard Labour supporters are flocking to the Tories as they are behind Boris and his hard stance on Brexit. They also won't support Corbyn. This is the biggest shift for me. People like my brother who is Labour through and through won't support Labour for the first time in his adult life. Others who are die hard Tories, won't support the Tories anymore because of the shambles that has unfolded in the last 3 years and also because they are remainers and don't like the way Boris has conducted himself. There are others who would never have voted Lib Dems who are now supporting them as they have a very strong stance on remaining in the EU.
Whoever you go for, the political landscape has completely changed (in the UK at least) and we have some interesting times ahead.
I find those who vote for one party all their lives rather odd. Parties change. In my lifetime labour has wandered in and out of my acceptance zone. The same for the tories.
Those who are party homeless are the ones who decide elections. In general, it would appear that if the incumbent party is doing a fair job, they will vote for them. Mess up the economy and there's hell to pay.
I've seen the good work that the libdems do locally wherever I've lived. In my current, true blue constituency, the local tories have ignored everything that the voters asked for in a town refurbishment and taken away what little they already had. They promised a new library, threatened to take it away, then said it could have unused shop premises, the floors of which were unable to take the weight of books. The hall where the old 'uns met for tea and a natter has been knocked down without a replacement, and the tories more than doubled the number of meetings that were behind closed doors.
Two libdems have been elected and already things have changed. Still no purpose-built library, like nearby towns, but at least a lift to the first floor. We hear about what goes on (literally) behind closed doors, although it seems that the subjects covered are now no longer contentious.
I'll continue to vote libdem locally. The sitting tenants, or at least those who think they are, have taken a bit of a knock.
At the GE I might vote tactically, just to ensure that the replacement for our lazy PM, who was kicked out for not being a right wing tory, has a hard ride. I doubt [s]he will lose such a safe tory seat, although one can hope, but a significant reduction in the majority might give hope to those who might move party or even force the one who takes over to actually do something for the constituency. That'd be nice.
Those who are party homeless are the ones who decide elections. In general, it would appear that if the incumbent party is doing a fair job, they will vote for them. Mess up the economy and there's hell to pay.
I've seen the good work that the libdems do locally wherever I've lived. In my current, true blue constituency, the local tories have ignored everything that the voters asked for in a town refurbishment and taken away what little they already had. They promised a new library, threatened to take it away, then said it could have unused shop premises, the floors of which were unable to take the weight of books. The hall where the old 'uns met for tea and a natter has been knocked down without a replacement, and the tories more than doubled the number of meetings that were behind closed doors.
Two libdems have been elected and already things have changed. Still no purpose-built library, like nearby towns, but at least a lift to the first floor. We hear about what goes on (literally) behind closed doors, although it seems that the subjects covered are now no longer contentious.
I'll continue to vote libdem locally. The sitting tenants, or at least those who think they are, have taken a bit of a knock.
At the GE I might vote tactically, just to ensure that the replacement for our lazy PM, who was kicked out for not being a right wing tory, has a hard ride. I doubt [s]he will lose such a safe tory seat, although one can hope, but a significant reduction in the majority might give hope to those who might move party or even force the one who takes over to actually do something for the constituency. That'd be nice.
Ive always been fairly fluid with my vote but it has usually gone to the tories and I've been happy at that choice, with the wider economic view in mind rather than personal gains.
These days i will be tactical voting, as the tories have made an absolute tits of everything since the referendum, but the thoughts of corbyn and his comrades at the helm scares the bejesus out of me. I would vote for that idiot with the bucket on his head before contemplating a labour vote.
These days i will be tactical voting, as the tories have made an absolute tits of everything since the referendum, but the thoughts of corbyn and his comrades at the helm scares the bejesus out of me. I would vote for that idiot with the bucket on his head before contemplating a labour vote.
JagLover said:
El stovey said:
Parties are always changing and drifting around the political spectrum as do the people running them and their policies.
I don’t support any party, I just look around when it’s an election and see who I think will do the best job.
Just like a utility provider when it’s time to renew a contract or deciding where to eat or which shop to buy a product from.
Look at the options gather some information and make a decision.
A wise approachI don’t support any party, I just look around when it’s an election and see who I think will do the best job.
Just like a utility provider when it’s time to renew a contract or deciding where to eat or which shop to buy a product from.
Look at the options gather some information and make a decision.
As long as they abide by their contract, in the form of their manifesto, of course
For example, last election, he promised to work to improve 'superfast' broadband coverage, despite having stated in a letter to a constituent a month beforehand that he couldn't do anything to improve broadband coverage as that was something devolved to the county council.
He rarely holds surgeries and the only way to get him to attend a meeting is to tell him the press will be there.
Unfortunately, some round here vote for anything with a blue rosette so he'll probably get back in.
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