I know where I wouldn't take may car...
I know where I wouldn't take may car...
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mickrick

Original Poster:

3,762 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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I've never seen such butchery! I'm shocked! yikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqlsXjbwtQc

Fore Left

1,618 posts

213 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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How do you suggest he removes it then?

selnic

467 posts

298 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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FFS would you like a pound of sausages with that sir?
There is no way that this guy is a time served mechanic, just the way he conducts himself looks wrong, smacking it with a hammer and then keep peering round the back to try and see what is holding. Slacken off the handbrake adjusters and the drum will almost fall off on its own.

mickrick

Original Poster:

3,762 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Fore Left said:
How do you suggest he removes it then?
Slack the adjusters off for starters....

E-bmw

13,574 posts

183 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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mickrick said:
Fore Left said:
How do you suggest he removes it then?
Slack the adjusters off for starters....
If he didn't slacken off the adjusters it likely wouldn't have come off without doing major damage & there quite clearly wasn't any.

Did you see the drum?

Do you know it didn't have a badly worn lip on the edge?

Don't see the issue with what he did aside of wearing dust protection.

t400ble

1,804 posts

152 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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They do get stuck, not sure what the issue is?

Old Merc

3,820 posts

198 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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I`ve spent part of my professional working life struggling to remove stuck rear drums. Seized cylinders, wear lip,faulty auto adjusters,you name it. There is no recognized professional method.

Megaflow

11,611 posts

256 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Given that there is three equally spaced tapped holes in the brake drum, suggest that is a known issue, and that is exactly what the holes are for.

mickrick

Original Poster:

3,762 posts

204 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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The lip was clearly hung up on the shoes.
If you can’t see what he was doing wrong, you should back away from the tools.
I’ve been working on cars and motorcycles since my Father stood over me, and told me step by step how to change a head gasket, Lap valves in, de-coke, and put it all back, on his 1972 Citroen DS. I was 12 years old.
I’ve worked at sea for the last 26 years as a marine engineer on super yachts.
Before that I worked for Caterpillar Tractor Co.
Working my way up from paint prep, assembly line, test and repair, and finally dimensional inspection and quality control.
I know a monkey when I see one.
This fellow has no clue.
If you can’t see that, then neither have you.

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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mickrick said:
The lip was clearly hung up on the shoes.
If you can’t see what he was doing wrong, you should back away from the tools.
Slackening the adjuster does not guaranty that the drum will come off easily. The video does not show whether the adjuster has been slackened off so you have no reason to assume that it has not been.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

212 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Megaflow said:
Given that there is three equally spaced tapped holes in the brake drum, suggest that is a known issue, and that is exactly what the holes are for.
Correct, per the service manual:



Sticky adjusters apparently not uncommon on these, as well as seized/sticky cylinders too, especially on barely-used campers.

I've had the same on cars with drum handbrakes where the adjusters weren't quite enough to pull everything back far enough to get the disk over them, so it needed persuasion. Apparently that makes me a butcher too.

Thankfully yachts don't need drum handbrakes wink

E-bmw

13,574 posts

183 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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mickrick said:
The lip was clearly hung up on the shoes.
Which is exactly what I said, thanks for agreeing.

Perhaps you will help us all out & tell us what he was actually doing wrong then.


anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Looks quite restrained compared to some of the things I've hit stuck or rusted car parts with. Where's the 6 foot steel tube and the lump hammer?

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

140 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Nothing wrong with the procedure, many drum brakes are difficult to dismantle, sometimes almost impossible

Wrong to knock what you don't have knowledge of



mickrick

Original Poster:

3,762 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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Penelope Stopit said:
Nothing wrong with the procedure, many drum brakes are difficult to dismantle, sometimes almost impossible

Wrong to knock what you don't have knowledge of


Over 40 years working on cars and motorcycles chum.
You do realise what it's doing to the bearings in that hub, smacking it with a lump hammer don't you? If you must use a hammer, use a copper one, so you don't damage the drum. I'd bet he didn't replace the wheel bearings after that, so the poor customer will be back for new bearings after not so long.

mickrick

Original Poster:

3,762 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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Krikkit said:
Megaflow said:
Given that there is three equally spaced tapped holes in the brake drum, suggest that is a known issue, and that is exactly what the holes are for.
Correct, per the service manual:



Sticky adjusters apparently not uncommon on these, as well as seized/sticky cylinders too, especially on barely-used campers.

I've had the same on cars with drum handbrakes where the adjusters weren't quite enough to pull everything back far enough to get the disk over them, so it needed persuasion. Apparently that makes me a butcher too.

Thankfully yachts don't need drum handbrakes wink
Correct yachts don't have drum brakes. I've worked on one that had a 1.2m dia. disc brake and 6 massive callipers to lock the shaft on the center gas turbine though.
I was merely pointing out that I have a wide range of experience, and make my living on the tools.
Jacking bolts are quite common on yachts though, especially on big sail boats with hydraulic winches, to lift the drum off the winch.

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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mickrick said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Nothing wrong with the procedure, many drum brakes are difficult to dismantle, sometimes almost impossible

Wrong to knock what you don't have knowledge of


Over 40 years working on cars and motorcycles chum.
You do realise what it's doing to the bearings in that hub, smacking it with a lump hammer don't you? If you must use a hammer, use a copper one, so you don't damage the drum. I'd bet he didn't replace the wheel bearings after that, so the poor customer will be back for new bearings after not so long.
I suspect that the hub receives far worse punishment in daily use just being a wheel hub? After all it has a planet on one end and an entire vehicle on the other end pounding it around.

Josho

748 posts

128 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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Another case of OP talking utter drivel.

mickrick

Original Poster:

3,762 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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oh dear! rolleyes
Carry on chaps, as you where...

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

189 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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laugh OP fail.