Don't film yobs ... it could be an offence!
Don't film yobs ... it could be an offence!
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cmsapms

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708 posts

273 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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[url]From our local rag|http://ichuddersfield.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/tm_objectid=15588715%26method=full%26siteid=50060%26headline=don%2dt%2dfilm%2dyobs%2d%2d%2d%2d%2dit%2dcould%2dbe%2dan%2doffence%2d-name_page.html[/url]

:rolleyes:

So you can't even gather the one piece of evidence that might be useful! Words fail me.

Paul

wolves_wanderer

12,954 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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Police in "Alienating Natural Supporters" shock

cotty

42,224 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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So what about all the CCTV cameras in shopping centres, there must be thousands of kids filmed every hour

FourWheelDrift

92,263 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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I have always wondered about the use of filmed evidence, I am sure I have heard it can be inadmissible as evidence in court, as it isn't gained with the consent of the person involved. A bit like audio evidence (like a recorded telephone conversation) can't be used without informing the other person the call is being recorded.

I wonder why this doesn't apply to speed cameras? Although I suppose the signs are the informing part, so instead of people vandalising the cameras they could just remove the signs making the use of the cameras evidence as inadmissible.

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Friday 3rd June 15:03

rooster

2,241 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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cotty said:
So what about all the CCTV cameras in shopping centres, there must be thousands of kids filmed every hour


as long as it says there are CCTV in use it is legitimate!

JagLover

46,750 posts

264 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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A case that illustrates perfectly what is wrong with the criminal justice system.

The police are far more concerned with the 'rights' of criminals than in preventing and/or detecting crime.

In my opinion local democratic control over the police through directly elected police boards is the only thing that can bring sense to the PC infected higher echelons of the police.

cotty

42,224 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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rooster said:

cotty said:
So what about all the CCTV cameras in shopping centres, there must be thousands of kids filmed every hour



as long as it says there are CCTV in use it is legitimate!


So couldnt the old lady put up signs around her house

TeamD

5,060 posts

261 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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Sigh!

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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supaspark

2,105 posts

267 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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there is a conspiracy going on in this country and its all becoming apparent!

rooster

2,241 posts

266 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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cotty said:

rooster said:


cotty said:
So what about all the CCTV cameras in shopping centres, there must be thousands of kids filmed every hour




as long as it says there are CCTV in use it is legitimate!



So couldnt the old lady put up signs around her house


yup

apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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"We treat any type of anti-social behaviour and vandalism seriously and will always take firm and positive action to tackle it."


So why has it been going on for 3 years?

love machine

7,609 posts

264 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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Farmer Dave has the right idea. Shoot them and throw the body in your slurry pit, there will be no trace of anything after a while. Also starved pigs will eat a person bones and all IIRC. This PC nonsense is just driving the dynamo of a massive indifference to the law, do you listen anymore, are you law abiding? I sure as hell am not.

cotty

42,224 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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So instead of advising her how she can continue filming kids breaking the law without her breaking the law they make her out to be a paedophile

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

270 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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rooster said:

cotty said:


rooster said:



cotty said:
So what about all the CCTV cameras in shopping centres, there must be thousands of kids filmed every hour





as long as it says there are CCTV in use it is legitimate!




So couldnt the old lady put up signs around her house



yup
And it is also against the rules to film land which doesn't belong to you.

CCTV is legal so long as it is properly signed, and only admissable if the quality is sufficient to clearly identify the offender. I have also heard that a date stamp is required on the image.

deckster

9,631 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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rsvmilly said:

And it is also against the rules to film land which doesn't belong to you.


Not quite. It's against the rules to film land which belongs to someone else. Public land (eg the street) is OK.

deckster

9,631 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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FourWheelDrift said:
A bit like audio evidence (like a recorded telephone conversation) can't be used without informing the other person the call is being recorded.


Again, not quite. You only need to have the consent of (ie inform) one party of the call. It's perfectly admissable to record your own phone calls but you can't tap into other people's.

Yugguy

10,728 posts

264 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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One day someone in authority is going to wake up and realise this country is royally ed up beyond belief.

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

268 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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this has made me think:

how many people here have any security measurements other than locks on the doors and windows and maybe an alarm?

my house has been broken into twice since i bought it at christmas (once when it was empty and once when my tenants were asleep upstairs). nothing was taken and the only damage was some broken glass and no prints were left so the police say they cant do any more.

when i move into it over the summer i am gonna have a big think about security, adn was just wondering what protection others have.

chris

granville

18,764 posts

290 months

Friday 3rd June 2005
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The predictable lunacy of our system once again conspires to configure justice into the likeness of a particularly loathesome, horse's arse.

Screaming damnation, Albion needs some kind of Seagallic justice and YESTERDAY!

>> Edited by derestrictor on Friday 3rd June 16:25