Mexico. You think sicario movie was far fetched?

[Pesty]

Not bad enough.
El Chapos son was captured so the cartel went to war. Released hundreds of prisoners to help fight.
They have .50 cal machine guns, anti tank missiles and RPGs

https://mobile.twitter.com/BZR924/status/118497907...

Edited by Pesty on Friday 18th October 07:46

Edited by Pesty on Friday 18th October 07:48

[Pesty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBQfoTnfxA4&fe...





So the cartel captured approx 40 police and soldiers then went looking for families.

El Chapo’s son released to save lives.

Edited by Pesty on Friday 18th October 08:05

[Frimley111R]

Jesus!

[Gecko1978]

BBC not showing pics of the armoured trucks that is truly scary stuff

[Trophy Husband]

Yet people go there on holiday!!

[rdjohn]

The film is far fetched - she would never have been recruited to that job.

[Dan_1981]

Crikey.

Heard it mentioned on 5 live this morning - a brief mention in the news, bloke arrested, then released after some violence.

I thought to myself, wow a bit of violence and they let you go.


Wasn't quite aware of the level of violence they meant.....

Letting him go though - has that not just set a precedent and made the cartel seniors basically untouchable?

[Pesty]

Gecko1978 said:

BBC not showing pics of the armoured trucks that is truly scary stuff

Yep, police and army outnumbered and outgunned.( and some on the payroll)

Couldn’t use helicopters or they’d be brought down.

There are videos of lines of Sinola cars of sicario’s entering the city as reinforcements,

There was no choice but to surrender the son. It would have been a bloodbath.

Body count not released but stories are emerging that at least some police were captured and executed.

Dan_1981 said:

Crikey.



Letting him go though - has that not just set a precedent and made the cartel seniors basically untouchable?

It seems to me that the cartels are pretty much the de facto rulers of Mexico now. Yes try to get them and civil war is on.
Releasing prisoners is basically revolution tactics. Armoured tacticals with heavy machine guns. You need to send in tanks and attack helicopters if you want to counter that.

Edited by Pesty on Friday 18th October 09:04

[Pesty]

rdjohn said:

The film is far fetched - she would never have been recruited to that job.

She’s was also annoying as fk


Anyway.

[JagLover]

Pesty said:

rdjohn said:

The film is far fetched - she would never have been recruited to that job.

She’s was also annoying as fk


Anyway.

A girl guide who had wandered into the wrong job.

[Harpoon]

Sounds just like Don Winslow's book series:

The Power of the Dog
The Cartel
The Border

Excellent reads,even if packed full of death and destruction (though that seems spot on after all this).

[MKA29]

What happens when a cartel holds more power than the government. Truly an embarrassment for Mexico

[funkyrobot]

Holy moly.

The cartels are truly untouchable.

[Dog Star]

This is the thing - all the Lefties and hand wringers going ballistic about Trump's wall and his line on detaining people caught crossing illegally - seriously, you want an open border with a country with these guys running around?

He's a loon, but in this case he's right.

[JagLover]

Dog Star said:

This is the thing - all the Lefties and hand wringers going ballistic about Trump's wall and his line on detaining people caught crossing illegally - seriously, you want an open border with a country with these guys running around?

He's a loon, but in this case he's right.

and some of the central American countries further south are even worse, with some of the world's highest murder rates.

[flacko]

Dan_1981 said:

Crikey.


Letting him go though - has that not just set a precedent and made the cartel seniors basically untouchable?

mexico is way past that stage. the cartels run that country and only external intervention could make a difference

[EmilA]

I assume the only way to deal with something on this grand of a scale would be to have military involvement, potentially nation wide?

[Thales]

EmilA said:

I assume the only way to deal with something on this grand of a scale would be to have military involvement, potentially nation wide?

Most of them are on the cartel's payroll, the government can't compete financially. They will always be a few steps ahead. Madness.

[Liokault]

EmilA said:

I assume the only way to deal with something on this grand of a scale would be to have military involvement, potentially nation wide?

Would have to be external military, the Mexican military is not distinct from the cartel.

[ZedLeg]

Dog Star said:

This is the thing - all the Lefties and hand wringers going ballistic about Trump's wall and his line on detaining people caught crossing illegally - seriously, you want an open border with a country with these guys running around?

He's a loon, but in this case he's right.

They don't have an open border and all the wall is doing is wasting billions of dollars on something that won't keep the drug smugglers out and traps refugees in with the people trying to murder them.