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My colleague just got back from Gloucester, which should have been a half hour trip there and back. However, he was stuck in an almighty traffic jam just east of the A40/A48 roundabout at Highnam, The reason for this became clear when he spotted at least one Camera van and at least 5 Police vehicles, marked and unmarked, headcount, 10 Police Officers minimum, seven of which wre just standing about, hands on hips chatting to each other!
As the crime in Gloucester is seemingly increasing on the streets (My sister in Law being a victim of crime in that area twice this year, with the Police incapable of looking into it!), it's really comforting to know they are really on the ball where crime really matters.
This 'victimisation' of the majority of the law abiding population whilst treating real thugs with kid gloves cannot continue without civil unrest in the pipeline!
A bloody annoyed UK law abiding citizen! :(
As the crime in Gloucester is seemingly increasing on the streets (My sister in Law being a victim of crime in that area twice this year, with the Police incapable of looking into it!), it's really comforting to know they are really on the ball where crime really matters.
This 'victimisation' of the majority of the law abiding population whilst treating real thugs with kid gloves cannot continue without civil unrest in the pipeline!
A bloody annoyed UK law abiding citizen! :(
It sounds like an ANPR operation, rather than speed cameras.
Criminals (as well as the rest of us) use vehicles to get themselves and their illicit goods from A to B.
Uninsured and unlicensed drivers continue to use the roads, as do those with unroadworthy vehicles.
The PNC is expanding to include insurance and MOT details, so hopefully this kind of ANPR operation will net the criminals, rather than those simply breaking a speed limit.
Criminals (as well as the rest of us) use vehicles to get themselves and their illicit goods from A to B.
Uninsured and unlicensed drivers continue to use the roads, as do those with unroadworthy vehicles.
The PNC is expanding to include insurance and MOT details, so hopefully this kind of ANPR operation will net the criminals, rather than those simply breaking a speed limit.
ANPR seems to work pretty well too. My partner bought a 944 to replace her 924 and transferred the insurance. The 924 wasn't sold straight away and I was using it one day insured under the 'other vehicle not belonging to me' clause on my own insurance for my car. It was still taxed and MoT'd and I had the MoT and registration document in the glovebox. Drove past an ANPR van and got pulled by Trafpol on a bike half a mile down the road. It had flagged up as uninsured. Explained the circumstances, showed him the documents, gave him the reg number of my car and he checked and confirmed I was insured and sent me on my way.
Can't say fairer than that, but they weren't clogging the road up. Unlike bloody traffic censuses!
Can't say fairer than that, but they weren't clogging the road up. Unlike bloody traffic censuses!
chris watton said:
But the main arterial road into Glocester is virtually at a standstill because of this!!!!
Why 10 PCs though??
>> Edited by chris watton on Friday 3rd June 15:47
Seems like a reasonable place to check a large number of vehicles
! Is it just possible that within a large number of vehicles, there will be some dodgy ones and some very dodgy ones too? 10 PC's will be able to stop and examine 10 vehicles that go through the check and get hits on the data base in relation to those vehicles.
2 PC's would not be effective because there would be many hits getting through unchallenged whilst they were busy with the two they had stopped.
Think about why you would need a lot of resources to address a lot of input into a system
. I have no problems with ANPR checks really. Its the dodgy feckers on the roads that tend not to hang around after an accident, or are involved in hit-and-runs.
The harder it is for them to drive around, the better.
The system of VED and insurance is another argument altogether though.
The harder it is for them to drive around, the better.
The system of VED and insurance is another argument altogether though.
May well be ANPR and if so it's not too bad, but there's another possibility - there have been 12 road deaths in the Forest of Dean since January, including some recent fatalities, so BiB must be under pressure to get the speeds down in order for people to die at different speeds, or at other random speeds on the lower quality roads they divert to in order to escape GATSOs and BiB attention. Not like there aren't many cameras and vans on them thar roads, plus all the vomit inducing scamera pratnership radio adverts in Glos just now, it's amazing there are any casualties at all really 
turbobloke said:
May well be ANPR and if so it's not too bad, but there's another possibility - there have been 12 road deaths in the Forest of Dean since January, including some recent fatalities, so BiB must be under pressure to get the speeds down in order for people to die at different speeds, or at other random speeds on the lower quality roads they divert to in order to escape GATSOs and BiB attention. Not like there aren't many cameras and vans on them thar roads, plus all the vomit inducing scamera pratnership radio adverts in Glos just now, it's amazing there are any casualties at all really
I agree, perhaps I was a little too harsh in my first post, as I guess it is good to see the Police for once, but it was just the amount of absolute hassle they caused!
Regarding the road deaths in the forest. I am not too sure it has a lot to do with speed, the roads are darned awful, there are sheep/deer roaming half the roads around here (Chan had to stop the other night as there was a large Owl in the middle of the road, brazen as you like! lol, us locals know the dangers on the roads, I very much doubt tourists do!! Finally, there does seem to be quite a large contingent of 'Max Powerish' boys in Cinderford, who have no idea about the basest of car physics, let alone driving skill! They have sound system worth £££££s, but drive on bald tyres, this is fact, I have seen it many a time! Mix these with the desperately slow (even taking into account the awful roads) old people, it is a recipe for disater!
Agreed Chris it's not got a lot to do with speed, though well-meaning locals are soaked in propaganda and that's all you hear about. This is indeed tractor toting territory, seeing livestock and wild beasties in the carriageway is normal for us and we expect it but, as you say, the daytrippers don't. There's some re-engineering needed for sure in some locations, but lowering the limit and posting a scamvan raises money, which as we all know is better for safety than spending it.
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