Clipped by a biker.. options?
Clipped by a biker.. options?
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Fastra

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4,289 posts

238 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Whilst driving to work in 10mph stop-start traffic my sons car was clipped by a biker trying to squeeze though a gap.
All caught on dashcam.
He's been left with a holed front bumper (ignore the arch scrapes - that was done by a fence post..!).
Biker didn't stop but definitely knew he'd done it as he did well to stop himself falling off - shot below shows him steading himself with his left foot.
Now it's 'only' a 2006 Fiat Panda, but now I'm/he's left with replacing the bumper of getting handy with some filler and a rattle can - out of his pocket.
Bike is showing as insured too.
Don't want to involve the insurance due to any recourse on premiums but is it worth reporting to the Police?
Would the insist on insurance involvment?


anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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st happens. you can report for failing to exchange details, but i would just move on.

Justatwist

92 posts

191 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Involving the police would see the motorcyclist arrested and charged.
I know you can feel aggrieved when things like this happen but sometimes it’s best to let it go and not let it stress you out.

Fastra

Original Poster:

4,289 posts

238 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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pretty much my thoughts too, just forget it and move on.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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you could request detauls from the DVLA and write to them, ask for money.

The thing is involve insuaance it just gets expensive. Involve police most likely nothing will happen anyway.

martinbiz

3,699 posts

174 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Justatwist said:
Involving the police would see the motorcyclist arrested and charged. .
Really??? now get back in the real world. OP the police would look at it and most likely decide on NFA as they do in 99% of these incidents, I would put it down to experience and move on. If you want pursue it you have the Reg no on film, that is all you need to go to your ins co and let them deal with it

Rasta Pickles

80 posts

87 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Report to the Police for sure along with dashcam footage; at least the scrote will get done for driving with undue and attention and failing to report an accident so he/she will get a nice juicy fine.

Ignore the idiots here telling you to forget and "move on"......we can't allow people to march wherever they want without due regard for the law of the land.

Thank God these sorts weren't around in 1939.

KungFuPanda

4,640 posts

199 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Get on AskMid, search the reg which should reveal insurer details and the third party contact dept. Contact them and tell them what happened. They should admit liability once faced with the video evidence. Ask them to repair.

Advise your own insurers for information purposes only.

Flumpo

4,024 posts

102 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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I would report it to the police if it isn’t a massive hassle. Isn’t that the whole point of having them?

Looking at the car, and I don’t mean to be rude. I would just have a go with some filler, spray and lacquer from your local paint shop. I would say that would be easier than all the insurance hassle and he may not even be insured. Plus it’s something to do at the weekend.


JulianHJ

8,868 posts

291 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Justatwist said:
Involving the police would see the motorcyclist arrested and charged.
I know you can feel aggrieved when things like this happen but sometimes it’s best to let it go and not let it stress you out.
It probably wouldn't be an arrest, it might be a voluntary attendance interview. It's worth reporting as the evidence appears to be strong. You might be able to get a result via a conditional caution, in which the biker pays for the cost of the repairs.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,137 posts

131 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Considering that the area needed attention anyway, I would just DIY it and let it go.

Without meaning to cause offence it’s possible the rider felt your son wasn’t over far enough/didn’t let him through/other and he regards this incident as “the time a Fiat nearly had me off”. In which case it might well be inevitable that insurance companies get involved and it could go 50-50.

RichardDastardly

157 posts

92 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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KungFuPanda said:
Get on AskMid, search the reg which should reveal insurer details and the third party contact dept. Contact them and tell them what happened. They should admit liability once faced with the video evidence. Ask them to repair.

Advise your own insurers for information purposes only.
This sounds like good advice to me.

As for the Fiat not being far enough over, if the motorcyclist thought that, he shouldn’t have chosen to undertake. The pictures suggest that a wide vehicle in the middle lane may have caused the issue - which is obviously something the motorcyclist should have judged better.

Blanco92

206 posts

100 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Doesn’t matter if the car is a snotter or not. It was damaged by someone else’s carelessness and the right thing to do is they sort it.

I’d get their details by either askMid/DVLA, write to them and ask them to reimburse you a suitable amount to fix it.

If they refuse then it’s your call to involve insurance or not, based on your own judgment.

ElectricPics

761 posts

110 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Considering that the area needed attention anyway, I would just DIY it and let it go.

Without meaning to cause offence it’s possible the rider felt your son wasn’t over far enough/didn’t let him through/other and he regards this incident as “the time a Fiat nearly had me off”. In which case it might well be inevitable that insurance companies get involved and it could go 50-50.
What do you mean 'didn't let him through'?

Motorcyclists squeezing past cars do so entirely at their own risk - it's simply an overtaking maneuver - or in this case a potentially dangerous undertake - that should be carried out safely or not at all.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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ElectricPics said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Considering that the area needed attention anyway, I would just DIY it and let it go.

Without meaning to cause offence it’s possible the rider felt your son wasn’t over far enough/didn’t let him through/other and he regards this incident as “the time a Fiat nearly had me off”. In which case it might well be inevitable that insurance companies get involved and it could go 50-50.
What do you mean 'didn't let him through'?

Motorcyclists squeezing past cars do so entirely at their own risk - it's simply an overtaking maneuver - or in this case a potentially dangerous undertake - that should be carried out safely or not at all.
I suspect he means, filtering is quite legal & if it is alleged driver drifted in lane squeezing the legally filtering biker.

mygoldfishbowl

4,285 posts

172 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Rasta Pickles said:
Report to the Police for sure along with dashcam footage; at least the scrote will get done for driving with undue and attention and failing to report an accident so he/she will get a nice juicy fine.

Ignore the idiots here telling you to forget and "move on"......we can't allow people to march wherever they want without due regard for the law of the land.

Thank God these sorts weren't around in 1939.
Reminds me of the time I was in stationary traffic and had my nearside door mirror smashed by a filtering cyclist who also failed to stop. Obviously I couldn't do a thing about it, aren't numberplates wonderful things.

ElectricPics

761 posts

110 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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vonhosen said:
ElectricPics said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Considering that the area needed attention anyway, I would just DIY it and let it go.

Without meaning to cause offence it’s possible the rider felt your son wasn’t over far enough/didn’t let him through/other and he regards this incident as “the time a Fiat nearly had me off”. In which case it might well be inevitable that insurance companies get involved and it could go 50-50.
What do you mean 'didn't let him through'?

Motorcyclists squeezing past cars do so entirely at their own risk - it's simply an overtaking maneuver - or in this case a potentially dangerous undertake - that should be carried out safely or not at all.
I suspect he means, filtering is quite legal & if it is alleged driver drifted in lane squeezing the legally filtering biker.
Fair enough!

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,240 posts

129 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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To all those saying to the OP 'move on', are you having a laugh? It matters not if it's a £100 snotter or a Veyron. Something of theirs has been damaged by someone elses mistake, and he cowardly legged it instead of facing up to his legal responsibilities. Insurance and police is my view.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
To all those saying to the OP 'move on', are you having a laugh? It matters not if it's a £100 snotter or a Veyron. Something of theirs has been damaged by someone elses mistake, and he cowardly legged it instead of facing up to his legal responsibilities. Insurance and police is my view.
Life is about battles and knowing when to pick one and when to move on. How much solace would actually come from reporting to insurance, paying higher fees, potentially excess, all over 100 quids worth of damage.



fastbikes76

2,450 posts

151 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
To all those saying to the OP 'move on', are you having a laugh? It matters not if it's a £100 snotter or a Veyron. Something of theirs has been damaged by someone elses mistake, and he cowardly legged it instead of facing up to his legal responsibilities. Insurance and police is my view.
Life is about battles and knowing when to pick one and when to move on. How much solace would actually come from reporting to insurance, paying higher fees, potentially excess, all over 100 quids worth of damage.

This time it may only be a £100 damage, but the next time ? If he was the honest sort he would have stopped and sorted it out regardless of what value he may have felt the car or the damage was. If it was a true PH directors car do you all really believe the biker would have suddenly stopped and done the right thing ? Nope, me either.