Speeding Fine - over 6 months old?
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Flashed by local police force in April...they wrote to hire company in May who named my company.as the hirer. Police then dragged heels and have now finally sent letter to my company a few days prior to 6 month limit.
My company have responded with my details...when I get the nip at some point in the future, my understanding is I respond to confirm I was the driver, but they cannot issue any proceedings as outside 6 months?
It may never turn up as today was exactly 6 months from offence. If it does, how do I play it?
My company have responded with my details...when I get the nip at some point in the future, my understanding is I respond to confirm I was the driver, but they cannot issue any proceedings as outside 6 months?
It may never turn up as today was exactly 6 months from offence. If it does, how do I play it?
guitarcarfanatic said:
It may never turn up as today was exactly 6 months from offence. If it does, how do I play it?
Complete the s.172 form in full, sign it & return it (recorded delivery) such that it is delivered to the SCP within 28 days from the date you received the notice.If you hear anything back, please update this thread.
DaveH23 said:
I believe the time frame you are referring to is to notify the registered keeper, not the driver.
I'll defer to AGT if he's around but the OP may be on to something here. As far as my understanding goes, for a speeding offence the information to charge must be laid before a court within 6 months of the offence - hence why people waiting for a court date normally get the paperwork a few days before the deadline. If the OP has only now been named as driver and the offence happened over 6 months ago they will not be able to do so and it should be dropped?
kiethton said:
DaveH23 said:
I believe the time frame you are referring to is to notify the registered keeper, not the driver.
I'll defer to AGT if he's around but the OP may be on to something here. As far as my understanding goes, for a speeding offence the information to charge must be laid before a court within 6 months of the offence - hence why people waiting for a court date normally get the paperwork a few days before the deadline. If the OP has only now been named as driver and the offence happened over 6 months ago they will not be able to do so and it should be dropped?
NugentS said:
And if they offer you a fixed penalty - decline it
Is it a myth that if you don't accept a CoFP, if the matter goes to court the fines / points situation can be worse? 
Currently facing 2 NIP's, 24 in 20 zone, same camera, same speed, but two different months
It seems the 'tolerance' over 20 (3-4 mph) has totally gone now 
Accepted the first NIP, sent off, and was offered CoFP. Paid it, but wonder if how many times they can offer a SAC? Is it once per year or have things changed? For the second NIP which would take me to 12 under totting up, I will decline the fixed penalty unless it's a course...
Edited by The Li-ion King on Tuesday 29th October 20:37
The Li-ion King said:
Is it a myth that if you don't accept a CoFP, if the matter goes to court the fines / points situation can be worse?
Currently facing 2 NIP's, 24 in 20 zone, same camera, same speed, but two different months It seems the 'tolerance' over 20 (3-4 mph) has totally gone now
Not a myth. Currently facing 2 NIP's, 24 in 20 zone, same camera, same speed, but two different months
It seems the 'tolerance' over 20 (3-4 mph) has totally gone now 24/20 is the lowest speed at which proceedings will commence.
The Li-ion King said:
Is it a myth that if you don't accept a CoFP, if the matter goes to court the fines / points situation can be worse?
No - depending upon the speed, fines and / or penalty points can be higher, plus there would be costs and surcharges to take into consideration. You can also be banned.The Li-ion King said:
..but wonder if how many times they can offer a SAC?
For providers who are part of the same scheme, it's one course of a particular type in any 3 year year period.QBee said:
Where I live, 20mph limits are around primary schools.
My grandchildren go to one such school.
No need for the rest of what i was going to write.
Was it "won't someone think of the grandchildren". Granted, the 12 points doesn't indicate a good driver, but it could have been when they weren't at school, or just possibly, somewhere other than where you live, where the limit is 20 for no good reason.My grandchildren go to one such school.
No need for the rest of what i was going to write.
Got the NIP through -
Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 monthy limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 monthy limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
guitarcarfanatic said:
Got the NIP through -
Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 monthy limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
I would assume so, but I would wait until someone like agtlaw gives a pointer, as they do know what they are doing. I guess they are relying on you not knowing the law (as most wouldn't) and would prefer you to accept the fixed penalty.Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 monthy limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
guitarcarfanatic said:
Got the NIP through -
Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 month limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
Yes and make reference to s. 127 of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980 (as amended). Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 month limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
agtlaw said:
guitarcarfanatic said:
Got the NIP through -
Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 month limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
Yes and make reference to s. 127 of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980 (as amended). Gives me the options of accepting the fixed penalty or court.
Offence happened on 30/04/2019 so outside of the 6 months by almost a week now - plus I get 30 days to reply....
Do I reply, tick for box for court and include a cover letter mentioning the 6 month limit from offence to bring a Single Justice Procedure Notice?
Cheers,
Rob
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