Rennsport Back Date 911

[Dick Dastardly]

Does anyone have any thoughts/experience of Rennsport, in particular their 911s? A Singer is my dream car but without £500k+ spare, one of these is a realistic option.

This car has grabbed my attention. https://www.johnhollandsales.co.uk/used-cars/10417...

I think I saw it for sale at HR Owen in Cheltenham early last year for about £110K. Since then (if it’s the same one) it has been up for sale a couple of times. Makes me wonder if it has reliability issues, to change hands quite often?

More details and pics here. The craftsmanship looks good... http://www.911rennsport.co.uk/for-sale/slate-grey-...

Great looking car that ticks a lot of boxes for me. I just wonder what they are like and there is very little info about them here on PistonHeads and elsewhere on the web.

Edited by Dick Dastardly on Saturday 2nd November 09:22

[Porsche911R]

All personal, some seen them as bitsa,s which ofcourse they are.
Some like building a personal project, but buying one outright seems much rarer.

Why buy a back date when you can buy a 964 would be my answer.

[Dick Dastardly]

The plan is to one day have a collection of original, good condition cars, including a 964, but something like this works for me as a ‘daily’ classic that I wouldn’t mind using in all weathers and sticking the miles on.

Ready made is the only option. I don’t have the time, the skills or the patience for a project.

[blackmamba]

I think that is very strong money for mechanically standard 3.0 SC back date. £120k would buy you a nice genuine early car or a proper hot rod with a lot more go.

[Taffy66]

blackmamba said:

I think that is very strong money for mechanically standard 3.0 SC back date. £120k would buy you a nice genuine early car or a proper hot rod with a lot more go.

I agree with you on this point..These type of cars needs to be at about the £60-70K mark IMO.

[avaF1]

caveat emptor............................. http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4...
pick a 64/93..............................job done.........................happy days............................

Dick Dastardly said:

Does anyone have any thoughts/experience of Rennsport, in particular their 911s? A Singer is my dream car but without £500k+ spare, one of these is a realistic option.

This car has grabbed my attention. https://www.johnhollandsales.co.uk/used-cars/10417...

I think I saw it for sale at HR Owen in Cheltenham early last year for about £110K. Since then (if it’s the same one) it has been up for sale a couple of times. Makes me wonder if it has reliability issues, to change hands quite often?

More details and pics here. The craftsmanship looks good... http://www.911rennsport.co.uk/for-sale/slate-grey-...

Great looking car that ticks a lot of boxes for me. I just wonder what they are like and there is very little info about them here on PistonHeads and elsewhere on the web.

Edited by Dick Dastardly on Saturday 2nd November 09:22

[993rsr]

avaF1 said:

caveat emptor............................. http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4...
pick a 64/93..............................job done.........................happy days............................

Dick Dastardly said:

Does anyone have any thoughts/experience of Rennsport, in particular their 911s? A Singer is my dream car but without £500k+ spare, one of these is a realistic option.

This car has grabbed my attention. https://www.johnhollandsales.co.uk/used-cars/10417...

I think I saw it for sale at HR Owen in Cheltenham early last year for about £110K. Since then (if it’s the same one) it has been up for sale a couple of times. Makes me wonder if it has reliability issues, to change hands quite often?

More details and pics here. The craftsmanship looks good... http://www.911rennsport.co.uk/for-sale/slate-grey-...

Great looking car that ticks a lot of boxes for me. I just wonder what they are like and there is very little info about them here on PistonHeads and elsewhere on the web.

Edited by Dick Dastardly on Saturday 2nd November 09:22

Totally agree, a lot of new so called 'specialists' have cropped up on the back of highly respected restorers.

If it was me I'd be looking for a very nice 964/993 as you and others have mentioned, unless you have a far more generous budget, I'd forget contemplating a restomod.

[Dick Dastardly]

Thanks for that thread, it's not the news I was hoping for, but the news I needed.

I personally love the idea of a Restomod. The looks of the very first 911s (my favourite ever car design) with the performance of a later car. With these cars already being customised I wouldn't mind using them properly, whereas with a top quality unmolested classic I'd feel like I have to treat it with kids gloves.

I was hoping that the Rennsport was £50K more than a standard car because it would be all sorted mechanically and for things like rust, so the likelihood of something going wrong would be a lot lower.

I have also been looking at the Paul Stephens cars, though they are a big jump up in money. Does anyone have any view on those?

[993rsr]

Dick Dastardly said:

I have also been looking at the Paul Stephens cars, though they are a big jump up in money. Does anyone have any view on those?

Again, I'd not find it possible to comprehend one of these over a good 964/993, an overpriced mash up IMO.

[MrVert]

A friend bought one....

Didn't end well, at all.

I had a Tutthill restomod. There is no comparison.

[SRT Hellcat]

If you really fancy the car have it fully inspected pre purchase to make sure it is 100%.

[Ragatha christie]

If I had 120k to spend I would want a decent engine, HBF or Carbs

[GTRene]

oke its in Germany, but those guys make lovely backdate cars as well, also not Sin ger prices.

https://www.dp-motorsport.de/projekte/

[GTRene]

Maybe you can buy this beauty, Sin ger style, for 1/5 or less of the price? even less as topic start car

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Edited by GTRene on Saturday 2nd November 23:20

[blackmamba]

Dick Dastardly said:

Thanks for that thread, it's not the news I was hoping for, but the news I needed.

I personally love the idea of a Restomod. The looks of the very first 911s (my favourite ever car design) with the performance of a later car. With these cars already being customised I wouldn't mind using them properly, whereas with a top quality unmolested classic I'd feel like I have to treat it with kids gloves.

I was hoping that the Rennsport was £50K more than a standard car because it would be all sorted mechanically and for things like rust, so the likelihood of something going wrong would be a lot lower.

I have also been looking at the Paul Stephens cars, though they are a big jump up in money. Does anyone have any view on those?

Resto mods can be very cool and a lot of fun, you just need to go and have a look and ensure the key components have been thoughtfully rebuilt. Why not find a restored early 911 and add a bit more poke etc.

As for Paul Stevens cars, have a look at one and it will take you 5 mins to make your mind up.

[Yellow491]

blackmamba said:

Resto mods can be very cool and a lot of fun, you just need to go and have a look and ensure the key components have been thoughtfully rebuilt. Why not find a restored early 911 and add a bit more poke etc.

As for Paul Stevens cars, have a look at one and it will take you 5 mins to make your mind up.

That long;)

[blackmamba]

I am a bit slow in my old age ( - ;

[darreni]

GTRene said:

Maybe you can buy this beauty, Sin ger style, for 1/5 or less of the price? even less as topic start car

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Edited by GTRene on Saturday 2nd November 23:20

Wow. I’d have that in a heartbeat.

[BertBert]

All that loverly work and stitching and all and it's still got the poxy faded bit of plastic around the ignition keyhole!