Interesting Maths Questions from the Missus
Interesting Maths Questions from the Missus
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sassthathoopie

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969 posts

244 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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So here's a thought that my wife was just pondering while pouring the coffee. It's been a long time since my maths 'A' level and I wasn't able to give an answer that satisfied either of us so I'm hoping someone here can give us a good answer!

Emma paid £2.00 for a box of satsumas.

If the box contained 10 satsumas the price per satsuma would be £2.00/10 = £0.2 or 20p

If the box contained 20 satsumas the price per satsuma would be £2.00/20 = £0.1 or 10p

If the box contained 15 satsumas the price per satsuma would be £2.00/15 = £0.1333 or 13p

Her logic suggested that the unit price for 15 satsumas should be 15p. (Halfway between 10p and 20p) Clearly this isn't the case.

My thought was that there would be a gradient that wasn't 1:1 but was shallower.

But when I plotted a 5 pointed graph of unit price between 10p and 20p it was curved not linear!

What's going on?!

sjg

7,677 posts

294 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_decay

The more satsumas, the closer you'll go to zero per unit. If it was linear it would go negative instead.


sassthathoopie

Original Poster:

969 posts

244 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Thank you!

I didn't spot the complete nature of the graph because I didn't plot enough satsumas!

havoc

33,385 posts

264 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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sassthathoopie said:
it was curved not linear!

What's going on?!
You're dealing with factors / multiplication.

100 x 1 = 100
10 x 10 = 100

But
100 + 1 >>>> 10 + 10

Which is to say, as the graph above demonstrates, that while addition is linear, multiplication is exponential.

Benrad

656 posts

178 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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And this is why you shouldn't extrapolate from two points to draw a straight line (or indeed interpolate!)

You'd have very quickly been paying people to take away for satsumas

Jordan Ellenburg's book, How not to be wrong, has some great real world examples of this

J4CKO

46,838 posts

229 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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Hmm, Emma's planned role play of the horny Grocer and sexy customer took a very unexpected and unwelcome turn when the graph paper came out...

TwigtheWonderkid

49,082 posts

179 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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sassthathoopie said:
So here's a thought that my wife was just pondering while pouring the coffee. It's been a long time since my maths 'A' level and I wasn't able to give an answer that satisfied either of us so I'm hoping someone here can give us a good answer!

Emma paid £2.00 for a box of satsumas.

If the box contained 10 satsumas the price per satsuma would be £2.00/10 = £0.2 or 20p

If the box contained 20 satsumas the price per satsuma would be £2.00/20 = £0.1 or 10p
If you carry on like that, it continues in the same fashion.

40 = 5p
80 = 2.5p
160 = 1.25p

& so on.

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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J4CKO said:
Hmm, Emma's planned role play of the horny Grocer and sexy customer took a very unexpected and unwelcome turn when the graph paper came out...
laugh

Monkeylegend

29,238 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Somebody is taking the pith.

WyrleyD

2,332 posts

177 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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J4CKO said:
Hmm, Emma's planned role play of the horny Grocer and sexy customer took a very unexpected and unwelcome turn when the graph paper came out...
....and there was an audible gasp when he showed her is pencil and placed it on the table....

andy_s

19,854 posts

288 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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J4CKO said:
Hmm, Emma's planned role play of the horny Grocer and sexy customer took a very unexpected and unwelcome turn when the graph paper came out...
rofl

mr_spock

3,374 posts

244 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
Somebody is taking the pith.
Quite an apeeling problem

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

129 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Did your missus arrange the price structure for the Christmas cards I have arranged to buy from my daughter's childminder?

1 pack of 12 cards: £6

2 packs of 12 cards: £10

3 packs of 12 cards: £18

4 packs of 12 cards: £22


But you can specify the quantity of the number of sets that you want at each price point.

PugwasHDJ80

7,679 posts

250 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Did your missus arrange the price structure for the Christmas cards I have arranged to buy from my daughter's childminder?

1 pack of 12 cards: £6

2 packs of 12 cards: £10

3 packs of 12 cards: £18

4 packs of 12 cards: £22


But you can specify the quantity of the number of sets that you want at each price point.
That's amazing - well done that girl

Increasing GP with volume- it is of course the answer.

Perhaps this is actually a SaaS model of card production?

JuniorD

9,013 posts

252 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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andy_s said:
J4CKO said:
Hmm, Emma's planned role play of the horny Grocer and sexy customer took a very unexpected and unwelcome turn when the graph paper came out...
rofl
roflrofl

Ari

19,821 posts

244 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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J4CKO said:
Hmm, Emma's planned role play of the horny Grocer and sexy customer took a very unexpected and unwelcome turn when the graph paper came out...
laugh

PositronicRay

29,007 posts

212 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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Or the bloke on the market the other day.

£3 each 3 for a tenner.

Ayahuasca

27,583 posts

308 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Did your missus arrange the price structure for the Christmas cards I have arranged to buy from my daughter's childminder?

1 pack of 12 cards: £6

2 packs of 12 cards: £10

3 packs of 12 cards: £18

4 packs of 12 cards: £22


But you can specify the quantity of the number of sets that you want at each price point.
Jason Rees-Mogg would never take the 3 pack offer.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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I buy satsumas in a net type thing or loose
Never in a box

Monkeylegend

29,238 posts

260 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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techiedave said:
I buy satsumas in a net type thing or loose
Never in a box
But you have never been on The Apprentice.