M2 gearbox choice?
M2 gearbox choice?

Poll: M2 gearbox choice?

Total Members Polled: 29

My M2/M2C has a manual gearbox: 52%
My M2/M2C has a DCT: 48%
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LotusJas

Original Poster:

1,365 posts

253 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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I've ordered an M2 CS, but have obviously yet to finalise my options.

I am torn between choosing what I consider to be the superior driving choice (DCT), and the "purists choice" of the manual.

Are there any stats on the split between manuals and DCT for the M2 and M2 Competition?

That is one factor that may help me in arriving at a decision.




Added a poll too, for owners of any M2 to state what they bought.

jbaddeley

829 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Have a quick look at ratio of manual to DCT used cars for sale in the classifieds. That'll b a good indicator. id go for what you want at that price. Manuals seem to depreciate a bit more than DCT cars but I'd doubt that's a major concern for you in the scheme of things. Should be a special car but probably far cheaper to modify a comp or base M2 to a standard that would surpass the CS. I'd have one though if money were no object.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,508 posts

165 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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I have a manual Comp that is great. I’d never have considered a DCT. Sure In a race they might be faster but so much less engaging and tactile.

RS Grant

1,729 posts

255 months

Monday 11th November 2019
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
I have a manual Comp that is great. I’d never have considered a DCT. Sure In a race they might be faster but so much less engaging and tactile.
Agree totally.

I’d have thought that a limited run special ‘driver focused’ edition like the CS will actually be more desirable as a manual.. unlike the OG M2 and M2C where I’ll concede that a DCT will probably be more desirable to people who use these as daily drivers and the type of people who like to triumphantly quote acceleration figures. laugh

ST66N

72 posts

106 months

Monday 11th November 2019
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I’ve a manual and I like it. Sixth is short on a long haul.

LotusJas

Original Poster:

1,365 posts

253 months

Monday 11th November 2019
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I reckon the only way to know will be to drive the manual M2C. I've driven the DCT M2 (not M2 C).

The short 6th puts me off more on the manual, than the slower performance does to be honest.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,508 posts

165 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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LotusJas said:
I reckon the only way to know will be to drive the manual M2C. I've driven the DCT M2 (not M2 C).

The short 6th puts me off more on the manual, than the slower performance does to be honest.
Agree. I have the manual and am thinking of changing to Boxster / 911 largely because of the short 6th

Dr_Rick

1,703 posts

270 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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I bought a DCT for slightly different reasons.

It's my daily, but over 30miles each way of motorway. The DCT has the extra gear and runs about 500-700rpm lower at motorway speeds. The home end of my drive is urban so stop-start traffic. The DCT makes that a little more fun. In between the country roads are quite fun and I'm sure would be better with the manual, but this is a rare occurance.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

113 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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jbaddeley said:
Have a quick look at ratio of manual to DCT used cars for sale in the classifieds. That'll b a good indicator. id go for what you want at that price. Manuals seem to depreciate a bit more than DCT cars but I'd doubt that's a major concern for you in the scheme of things. Should be a special car but probably far cheaper to modify a comp or base M2 to a standard that would surpass the CS. I'd have one though if money were no object.
Manual cars are cheaper from Spec but i'm not sure about them depreciating more. I'd go as far as ti say the DCT is far more common so if anything eventually it'll be the other way.

All depends on your needs OP. I didnt know the CS was going to be offered in DCT

R.Sole

12,241 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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FocusRS3 said:
jbaddeley said:
Have a quick look at ratio of manual to DCT used cars for sale in the classifieds. That'll b a good indicator. id go for what you want at that price. Manuals seem to depreciate a bit more than DCT cars but I'd doubt that's a major concern for you in the scheme of things. Should be a special car but probably far cheaper to modify a comp or base M2 to a standard that would surpass the CS. I'd have one though if money were no object.
Manual cars are cheaper from Spec but i'm not sure about them depreciating more. I'd go as far as ti say the DCT is far more common so if anything eventually it'll be the other way.

All depends on your needs OP. I didnt know the CS was going to be offered in DCT
If lease prices are anything to go by the manual was nearly £100 per month more so yes they are more likely to depreciate more.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

113 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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R.Sole said:
If lease prices are anything to go by the manual was nearly £100 per month more so yes they are more likely to depreciate more.
Seems odd given the DCT adding more £ to the price no ?

R.Sole

12,241 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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FocusRS3 said:
R.Sole said:
If lease prices are anything to go by the manual was nearly £100 per month more so yes they are more likely to depreciate more.
Seems odd given the DCT adding more £ to the price no ?
Yep, but they take future value into the calculations which I presume makes the auto car cheaper to rent!

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

113 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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R.Sole said:
Yep, but they take future value into the calculations which I presume makes the auto car cheaper to rent!
Got it tks

pjv997

664 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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RS Grant said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
I have a manual Comp that is great. I’d never have considered a DCT. Sure In a race they might be faster but so much less engaging and tactile.
Agree totally.

I’d have thought that a limited run special ‘driver focused’ edition like the CS will actually be more desirable as a manual.. unlike the OG M2 and M2C where I’ll concede that a DCT will probably be more desirable to people who use these as daily drivers and the type of people who like to triumphantly quote acceleration figures. laugh
Agree with the above and by way of example, my wife has a high spec 2016 manual TTS. The manual cars are in a significant minority compared to the Audi DSG cars and they don’t make the TTS in manual anymore. As a result only a few years down the line we have a car that has held its value much better than the DSG ca4 would.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

113 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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pjv997 said:
Agree with the above and by way of example, my wife has a high spec 2016 manual TTS. The manual cars are in a significant minority compared to the Audi DSG cars and they don’t make the TTS in manual anymore. As a result only a few years down the line we have a car that has held its value much better than the DSG ca4 would.
There are more DCT cars for sale than Manual.
Weather that makes a material difference or not i'm not sure.


rassi

2,510 posts

273 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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I hope you buy an M2 CS for you to enjoy, according to your driving preferences, and not what the next owner (or market) would prefer - so get the DCT as you indicated.

clived

577 posts

262 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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My M2C is DCT. The only downside I've found is that it is very difficult to creep forward, which makes getting it into the garage interesting. You can work round it and it isn't a good enough reason to not have DCT if you want it, but worth being aware of.

mudy

874 posts

194 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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I had a roll out 2016 manual, phenomenal car, but as with quite a few modern bimmers, a slightly notchy gear change does let the car down a bit imo. This may be different in a cs. I drove a similar age auto m2 and really liked the gearbox but just thought manual was more engaging, which it was. Can you drive both?

leshkin

48 posts

201 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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clived said:
My M2C is DCT. The only downside I've found is that it is very difficult to creep forward, which makes getting it into the garage interesting. You can work round it and it isn't a good enough reason to not have DCT if you want it, but worth being aware of.
I found this too originally, but do find it easy to lightly tap the throttle to get it moving and in eco it's even easier to get it to creep. If you are struggling, it's possible to enable the DCT to mimic a typical auto box to help you, where it will creep forward unless you're on the brake.