Flipping burgers for £31,200 a year
Flipping burgers for £31,200 a year
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Mothersruin

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8,573 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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McDonalds workers on strike for £31,200 a year, all over the country, for basic positions.

Minimum wage of £15 an hour, guaranteed 40 hour weeks plus other stuff.

Link coming.

Thankyou4calling

10,889 posts

197 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Fake news

Mothersruin

Original Poster:

8,573 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Thankyou4calling said:
Fake news
hehehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/m...

That slimeball Starmer involved, surprise, surprise.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

142 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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£31,200 is more than most Sous chefs and line chefs get at many Michelin starred restaurants.

nikaiyo2

5,806 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Mothersruin said:
McDonalds workers on strike for £31,200 a year, all over the country, for basic positions.

Minimum wage of £15 an hour, guaranteed 40 hour weeks plus other stuff.

Link coming.
Reading the article workers at 6 Mcdonalds... 6 out of 1300.

Big news or not.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

124 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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cbmotorsport said:
£31,200 is more than most Sous chefs and line chefs get at many Michelin starred restaurants.
They could push for more if they wanted to.

Mothersruin

Original Poster:

8,573 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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nikaiyo2 said:
Mothersruin said:
McDonalds workers on strike for £31,200 a year, all over the country, for basic positions.

Minimum wage of £15 an hour, guaranteed 40 hour weeks plus other stuff.

Link coming.
Reading the article workers at 6 Mcdonalds... 6 out of 1300.

Big news or not.
The Media are giving it plenty of time, so you decide.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

142 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Shakermaker said:
cbmotorsport said:
£31,200 is more than most Sous chefs and line chefs get at many Michelin starred restaurants.
They could push for more if they wanted to.
Yes they could. Although they'd likely be a queue of people waiting to fill their shoes if they didn't get it.

Teppic

7,949 posts

281 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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"Hi. I'd like a Big Mac please."

"Any fries with that"?

"No"

"O.K., That will be £19.99"

FourWheelDrift

91,962 posts

308 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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So 30k a year to flip burgers at McDonalds. Not exactly enticing the young to work hard at school to better themselves is it.

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,078 posts

193 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
So 30k a year to flip burgers at McDonalds. Not exactly enticing the young to work hard at school to better themselves is it.
NHS pays similar for someone to see where beds are empty on wards. I think flipping burgers requires more talent.

Funk

27,402 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Article said:
“If we got £15 an hour, it would have a massive impact - I would be able to afford to pay my rent, to pay my bills, go on holiday and have some kind of work-life balance.

“I think it's important to strike against massive corporations like McDonald's who are making millions.”
The issue here is the simplistic view they're taking.

£15/hr would have a massive impact - just not in the way he thinks. He would still be in the same relative position - if everyone's income jumped suddenly, inflation would rocket, rents would shoot up... And matey-boy would be in exactly the same position as he is now.

This is the thing Labour seem to forget - you can't 'eradicate poverty', it's a relative thing. There will always be people who are poorer relative to everyone else, all you do is redefine it, not get rid of it.

Edited by Funk on Wednesday 13th November 13:48

TTwiggy

11,799 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Funk]rticle said:
“If we got £15 an hour, it would have a massive impact - I would be able to afford to pay my rent, to pay my bills, go on holiday and have some kind of work-life balance.

“I think it's important to strike against massive corporations like McDonald's who are making millions.”[/article]
The issue here is the simplistic view they're taking.

£15/hr would have a massive impact - just not in the way he thinks. He would still be in the same relative position - if everyone's income jumped suddenly, inflation would rocket, rents would shoot up... And matey-boy would be in exactly the same position as he is now.

This is the thing Labour seem to forget - you can't 'eradicate poverty', it's a relative thing. There will always be people who are poorer relative to everyone else, all you do is redefine it, not get rid of it.
You should proffer this view on some of the Brexit threads where the curtailing of cheap foreign labour and the subsequent increase in the working wage is lauded as a 'great' thing.

amusingduck

9,649 posts

160 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Funk]rticle said:
This is the thing Labour seem to forget - you can't 'eradicate poverty', it's a relative thing. There will always be people who are poorer relative to everyone else, all you do is redefine it, not get rid of it.
Not if we revert back to "poverty" meaning "absolute poverty" not "relative poverty". I'd wager most people's picture of "poverty" is africa, not owning a Fiat when everyone else on the street drives a BMW

g3org3y

22,171 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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Parents have always said:
Work hard at school to pass your exams or you'll end up working in McDonald's for rubbish money

red_slr

20,115 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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I wonder how many work 16 hours a week so they can continue to claim their full benefits because they are better off financially doing so?

I also wonder if they increased the pay would workers suddenly work less hours but for the same money? I.e 60% pay rise, then work 60% fewer hours.



superlightr

12,920 posts

287 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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do you get discounted food?


cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

142 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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superlightr said:
do you get discounted food?
They'd have to pay me more to eat it.

768

19,338 posts

120 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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superlightr said:
do you get discounted food?
A long time ago at least, you used to be able to have a certain amount per x hours worked, or something like that.

Most people couldn't stomach it after working a shift there. hehe

bazza white

3,730 posts

152 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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I worked there 22 years ago as a 16/17 year old student. £6.20/hour iirc, it was one of the best rates on the high street and works out at £10.50 in today's money. You could work your way up easily to. 2nd assistant manager back then was on £22k (38k eqiv today) that was pretty achievable in a couple of years. Burger King was always crap money.

I will agree with them on a few things, advance notice of shifts should be do-able. I think it was 2 weeks when i was there but sounds like they get chopped and changed now. 4 weeks is easily do-able. When i started a a management job in retail one of the first things i did was sort a decent rota out which made my life easier and received well by staff.



One thing i do notice is when i worked there the queue used to be out the door on a Saturday lunch time, when i walk past now you can see straight to the counters so not sure how much quieter the branches are now.