BA’s life jackets
Discussion
V8LM said:
In the age of plastic fasteners and clips, why does BA keep with the life jacket that requires “tying the straps with a double bow at the side” ?
How many people can tie such a knot, especially in the panic of making “a landing on water”?
Eh? Are you suggesting that people can't tie their shoe laces? If this is the level of 'pathetic' the human race has descended to, then Darwinism should sort it out.How many people can tie such a knot, especially in the panic of making “a landing on water”?
Edit: ... of course not, snowflakes use velcro or have mum to help them!
Another pertinent question is, when all decent life jackets have crotch straps, and the better ones have spray hoods too, why do airline life jackets make do with only a waist strap?
When you are bobbing around in the ocean, what is going to stop you falling out of the life jacket? What is going to stop spray going into your lungs?
When you are bobbing around in the ocean, what is going to stop you falling out of the life jacket? What is going to stop spray going into your lungs?
If you think most aircraft crashes end in a nice soft landing at sea and then an orderly departure in to a warm sea that the little vest will save you from you have to be bonkers. How long after surviving a mega g stop could you clamber out and blow that little whistle in cold sea could,you live for? 30 mins? You could tread water that long.
Ricky Gervais talks about a search and rescue helicopter looking for downed people blowing their whistle despite the noisy helicopter and the pilots wearing noise cancelling headphones.
If it hits the water from x 000 feet you do not need to worry about plastic clip vs a shoe lace knot....
Ricky Gervais talks about a search and rescue helicopter looking for downed people blowing their whistle despite the noisy helicopter and the pilots wearing noise cancelling headphones.
If it hits the water from x 000 feet you do not need to worry about plastic clip vs a shoe lace knot....
V8LM said:
In the age of plastic fasteners and clips, why does BA keep with the life jacket that requires “tying the straps with a double bow at the side” ?
How many people can tie such a knot, especially in the panic of making “a landing on water”?
How many lives have been saved by the use of life jackets, correctly tied, or otherwise?How many people can tie such a knot, especially in the panic of making “a landing on water”?
How many lives have been lost because of the failure to wear a life jacket, inadequately tied, or otherwise?
I remember there being a call to have them after the Manchester fire but the complexity and cost vs the benefits meant it was never progressed.
Im sure any decision like this will prompt a “what value can you put on a human life?”
The answer in risk assessment terms is about £2 million
Im sure any decision like this will prompt a “what value can you put on a human life?”
The answer in risk assessment terms is about £2 million
Steve vRS said:
On commercial a eroplanes, according to QI, there have been no recorded instances of any lives being saved through the use of a life jacket.
Many lives have been lost because people put them on and used them incorrectly. One incident that is often cited is the Ethiopian Airlines hijack that lead to a botched ditching.Many passengers inflated their life jackets inside the fuselage and became stuck, then subsequently drowned. It is estimated that 60-80 people drowned in the aftermath of the crash.
Personally, I would far rather see smoke hoods on board rather than lifejackets.
Caddyshack said:
If you think most aircraft crashes end in a nice soft landing at sea and then an orderly departure in to a warm sea that the little vest will save you from you have to be bonkers. How long after surviving a mega g stop could you clamber out and blow that little whistle in cold sea could,you live for?
^This.Life jacket is nothing more than a 'make the passenger feel good' placebo item.
Steve vRS said:
On commercial a eroplanes, according to QI, there have been no recorded instances of any lives being saved through the use of a life jacket.
US Airways Flight 1549 "Miracle on the Hudson" ?If some of the passengers who ended up in the water didn't have life jackets their chances of survival would have reduced, surely?
Zetec-S said:
US Airways Flight 1549 "Miracle on the Hudson" ?
If some of the passengers who ended up in the water didn't have life jackets their chances of survival would have reduced, surely?
But they didn't have to jump into the water, those that did, choose to do that because they thought the aircraft was going to explode, and others choose to jump in and swim the short distance to the rescue boats that were approaching......had they not had life jackets on and stayed on the wing they would still been OK. In fact with the water/air temps that day, they were taking a greater risk by jumping in the water even with a life jacket on!If some of the passengers who ended up in the water didn't have life jackets their chances of survival would have reduced, surely?
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