ASTON V FERRARI
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ajr550

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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SO ASTON ANNOUNCE THEY ARE GOING TO LAUNCH A MID ENGINED FERRARI COMPETITOR AND FERRARI LAUNCH THIS (GTC ROMA I THINK)
IT IS GOING TO GET COMPETITIVE DEPENDING ON PRICE


ajr550

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DeltonaS

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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ajr550 said:
SO ASTON ANNOUNCE THEY ARE GOING TO LAUNCH A MID ENGINED FERRARI COMPETITOR AND FERRARI LAUNCH THIS (GTC ROMA I THINK)
IT IS GOING TO GET COMPETITIVE DEPENDING ON PRICE
Your CAPS LOCK ist kaputt.


But no, Ferrari is king when it comes to engines.

In general Aston Martin hasn't really been on the same level as Ferarri for decades.

I wonder what engine Aston will use, a Mercedes derived one no doubt. The 4.0 V8 AMG with some different components and tune.

But the market for these cars is big these days and Aston needs to strenghten and widen it's portfolio to stay relevant and cost effective.

On the other hand and unfortunately Ferrari seems to follow in McLaren footsteps by presenting multiple special editions every year.

Edited by DeltonaS on Wednesday 13th November 21:06

Jon39

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173 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Well, has this Ferrari been launched, but without stating any prices?
Is that how Ferrari operate?

A pretty design, but is it supposed to compete directly with the Vantage?
A very Aston Martin colour for their launch. They might be up to something.



Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 13th November 19:15

CB07

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Hope its not just me that thought this was an updated vantage front for a moment there..

RobXjcoupe

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Money no object a Ferrari because as mentioned above the Ferrari has a Ferrari engine. At this price range I wouldn’t want a German production engine in a high end British sports car.
Way back when, TVR managed to pool enough cash for there own engine. Aston have no excuse not to do the same. Just my opinion smile

Jon39

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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RobXjcoupe said:
Way back when, TVR managed to pool enough cash for there own engine. Aston have no excuse not to do the same. Just my opinion smile

Wait until you see Aston Martin's new engine, customer deliveries planned to begin within six months. It is a proper engine, V12 naturally aspirated 1,160 bhp, revs to 11,000rpm. That is the road going version. The planned Le Mans race version, will have to be detuned to meet regulations. Have you ever heard of that happening before ?

Your profile page show a very ingenious way of being able to drive all of your cars at the same time. Wonder if that will catch on?






Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 13th November 20:22

ajr550

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Base price of Roma about £165k.
DB11 competitor rather than Vantage.

Edited by ajr550 on Wednesday 13th November 20:48

RobXjcoupe

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Jon39 said:

RobXjcoupe said:
Way back when, TVR managed to pool enough cash for there own engine. Aston have no excuse not to do the same. Just my opinion smile

Wait until you see Aston Martin's new engine, customer deliveries planned to begin within six months. It is a proper engine, V12 naturally aspirated 1,160 bhp, revs to 11,000rpm. That is the road going version. The planned Le Mans race version, will have to be detuned to meet regulations. Have you ever heard of that happening before ?

Your profile page show a very ingenious way of being able to drive all of your cars at the same time. Wonder if that will catch on?
Gives a new meaning to pick up truck wink

If that new engine is totally Aston Martin then it’s a definite thumbs up from me biggrin






Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 13th November 20:22

JohnG1

3,487 posts

235 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Jon39 said:

RobXjcoupe said:
Way back when, TVR managed to pool enough cash for there own engine. Aston have no excuse not to do the same. Just my opinion smile

Wait until you see Aston Martin's new engine, customer deliveries planned to begin within six months. It is a proper engine, V12 naturally aspirated 1,160 bhp, revs to 11,000rpm. That is the road going version. The planned Le Mans race version, will have to be detuned to meet regulations. Have you ever heard of that happening before ?

Your profile page show a very ingenious way of being able to drive all of your cars at the same time. Wonder if that will catch on?






Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 13th November 20:22
Valkyrie engine also has 24 spark plugs...
Which is way cooler than a mere 12

Buster73

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183 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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JohnG1 said:
Jon39 said:

RobXjcoupe said:
Way back when, TVR managed to pool enough cash for there own engine. Aston have no excuse not to do the same. Just my opinion smile

Wait until you see Aston Martin's new engine, customer deliveries planned to begin within six months. It is a proper engine, V12 naturally aspirated 1,160 bhp, revs to 11,000rpm. That is the road going version. The planned Le Mans race version, will have to be detuned to meet regulations. Have you ever heard of that happening before ?

Your profile page show a very ingenious way of being able to drive all of your cars at the same time. Wonder if that will catch on?






Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 13th November 20:22
Valkyrie engine also has 24 spark plugs...
Which is way cooler than a mere 12
I’m sure the tech who has to change the damn things will struggle to agree with you’re thoughts...

LPH

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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When I saw the pics a couple of hours ago I thought Ferrari had launched a new Aston or Jag!

That's an F Type / Vantage / 612 love child.......

RobXjcoupe

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Buster73 said:
JohnG1 said:
Jon39 said:

RobXjcoupe said:
Way back when, TVR managed to pool enough cash for there own engine. Aston have no excuse not to do the same. Just my opinion smile

Wait until you see Aston Martin's new engine, customer deliveries planned to begin within six months. It is a proper engine, V12 naturally aspirated 1,160 bhp, revs to 11,000rpm. That is the road going version. The planned Le Mans race version, will have to be detuned to meet regulations. Have you ever heard of that happening before ?

Your profile page show a very ingenious way of being able to drive all of your cars at the same time. Wonder if that will catch on?






Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 13th November 20:22
Valkyrie engine also has 24 spark plugs...
Which is way cooler than a mere 12
I’m sure the tech who has to change the damn things will struggle to agree with you’re thoughts...
To be honest if the tech thinks it’s a pain to change spark plugs then they are not the person for the job?!

shinjuku

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Jon39

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Wednesday 13th November 2019
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RobXjcoupe said:
If that new engine is totally Aston Martin then it’s a definite thumbs up from me biggrin

Aston Martin have commissioned Cosworth to create the Aston Martin V12 engine.
It has no connection with Astons existing long running V12, which began life in the DB7.

If you are interested, there is a good video explaining the engine and its development.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8ZrN__nmA

The whole project is expected to result in the first landmark car, since the McLaren F1 in 1982.




Bobajobbob

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126 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Looks very much like what I imagined the new Vantage would look like, before I saw it. Everything wrong about the front of the new Vantage to my eyes is right in this design. GG Ferrari.

Jon39

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DB9VolanteDriver

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206 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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If this was the new Vantage, they'd be selling like hot cakes.

AstonV

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136 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
If this was the new Vantage, they'd be selling like hot cakes.
+1

RobXjcoupe

3,390 posts

121 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Jon39 said:

RobXjcoupe said:
If that new engine is totally Aston Martin then it’s a definite thumbs up from me biggrin

Aston Martin have commissioned Cosworth to create the Aston Martin V12 engine.
It has no connection with Astons existing long running V12, which began life in the DB7.

If you are interested, there is a good video explaining the engine and its development.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk8ZrN__nmA

The whole project is expected to result in the first landmark car, since the McLaren F1 in 1982.
Good ole Cosworth, a performance engine pedigree that other manufacturers can only dream of. Yet they cover mediocre engines to exotic. smile
I think Jaguar will be doing something similar soon as there lovely 5.0 supercharged motors are finishing production next year. I don’t think a bmw powered Jaguar will do them any favours