new owner - car won't start!!
new owner - car won't start!!
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andy-w

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1,987 posts

255 months

Sunday 5th June 2005
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Hi, after wanting a TVR for many years, I picked up my Chimaera yesterday. I've barely done 30 miles and problems already!!

It just won't start! It's got petrol, it sparks, I've read the advice in the forums and have pulled the relays for the ECU and the petrol pump, cleaned the plugs, checked the HT leads - can't seem to find the problem.

I can hear the whine of the pump from the back of the car when I turn the ignition. The engine turns over but it won't fire up.

Any help would be much appreciated!! Only sorry that my first conversation on here is asking for help!!

petros

2,441 posts

258 months

Sunday 5th June 2005
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Wish I could help but I can't. However, there's loads of knownledgeable folks on this site that'll soon sort it out for ya.

andy-w

Original Poster:

1,987 posts

255 months

Sunday 5th June 2005
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Yeah, cheers. I'll keep checking!

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

296 months

Sunday 5th June 2005
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Hve you checked teh Dizzy and rotor arm? coil conections etc could be something loose? Prehaps now its dark get someone to try starting it with you looking under the hood to see if there is any sparking.
Not to much gas as you may flood it.

Welcome to PH

BB

pena

317 posts

290 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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I have had this problem a few times.
There's 3 relays that sort of hang by themselves near the ECU.

Relay 1: controls the fuel pump.{You mentioned that the whine is coming from the pump}So ignore that one.

Relay 2 & 3: This are the one that caused me problems, the box that the relay fits into, came lose at the rear, so the engine just keeps cranking over but does not start.

Check that the wires are not corroded (from damp),rusted or have a loose connection.

Also when this happened to mine the relay(s) stopped working properly. I noticed that the where always hot.
They internal connector had burned out, causing a slow power drain of the battery.

Get yourself to a ford dealership (I think) and get 2 new relays. (they are not that expensive), and change them.

Hope this helps.

>> Edited by pena on Monday 6th June 03:02

pullingpower

260 posts

263 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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As a new owner and not used to starting her up, do you think it is flooded?

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

306 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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It's not got carbs, so flooding isn't likely. Had the car been stood for a while before you bought it? Maybe the petrol has passed its best. Try adding some fresh petrol.

>> Edited by victormeldrew on Monday 6th June 10:45

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Can you bump start a Chim?

ntel

5,051 posts

269 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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parrot of doom said:
Can you bump start a Chim?


big_treacle

1,727 posts

289 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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parrot of doom said:
Can you bump start a Chim?


You're not supposed to as far as I remember, but from experience, yes.

wizzpig

2,039 posts

257 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Not much help with technical problems like that I'm afraid but there are many on PH that are.

Welcome fellow Chim owner.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

276 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Flooding is possible. When the Griff wasn't running well it kept stalling at start up. Then flooded it. Only cure is take the plugs out, clean them and dry them thoroughly. PITA job (on the Griff) but no alternative.
FFG

oxford drinker

1,927 posts

258 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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could it be as simple as an air lock in the fuel system? I had this a couple of times when I first owned my car, and it alarmed me until opening the filler cap solved it.

hope you rectify this soon and enjoy your new puchase!

greg_D

6,542 posts

275 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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does the car have an immobiliser? turning over healthily but not firing sounds like this may be the cause.

HTH

Greg

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Its probably just some damp somewhere.. I'd start with the plugs, leads and distributor cap.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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I suggest you put brand new plugs in. Yes it is possible to clean old plugs, but even if you know what you're doing you won't get them back to 'as new'. From your description I guess you have already shown there is a strong spark at the plugs, and I assume you smelt loads of petrol on the plugs when they came out for cleaning, so most likely it has just flooded. If either of these assumptins are false then you need to investigate potential fuel/ignition problems. It isn't normally possible to flood the engine if everything is working properly, but it can easily happen if there is anything marginal about the ignition system or any damp in the engine bay.

Make sure you keep the battery charged up, if this starts to run down you're flogging a dead horse.

Has it got an immobiliser you aren't familiar with? If it's cranking and you have fuel and spark I guess this rules out immobilser problems, but it's the sort of thing that could catch a new owner out.

If all else fails talk to the previous owner.

chimtvr

1,315 posts

263 months

Monday 6th June 2005
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Are you 100% sure you have petrol? just a thought as mine runs out of petrol at half a tank stick a gallon in just in case

andy-w

Original Poster:

1,987 posts

255 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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She is up and running!!!

Took out the old plugs and left them out for about half hour put the new plugs in the oven to warm them up and it started straight away...did clean the rotor arm, dizzy cap and disconnected and reconnected a few things as well just to make sure everything had good connections but whatever it was has put a huge smile back on my face...just wondering how the neighbours like the new alarm clock???

Just one other thing...it seems to splutter really bad until it has warmed up...is this normal?

Sorry for sounding like a numpty but this is my first TVR...!!!

Thanks for the help and advice from all of you.

Andy

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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andy-w said:

Just one other thing...it seems to splutter really bad until it has warmed up...is this normal?


No, that might be a sign that it is running too rich.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th June 2005
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So it is likely it was flooded then.
You need to get it set up correctly asap or run the risk of it happening again.
FFG