991 Turbo or Turbo S
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Looking to buy a Turbo Or Turbo S before Xmas, is there much benefit to having the S over a well specced Turbo?
My budget is 80k and that gives me access to a couple of S models or quite a few normal Turbos.
I will tune the car so the additional power not a concern.
Is an S much more easy to sell?
Any other reasons to get an S?
Thanks!
My budget is 80k and that gives me access to a couple of S models or quite a few normal Turbos.
I will tune the car so the additional power not a concern.
Is an S much more easy to sell?
Any other reasons to get an S?
Thanks!
Gen 2 turbo s has bigger VTG turbos. Worth the extra money to me especially if tuning.
On gen 1 identical VTG turbos for both models so makes no difference but worth noting fuelling system not as good so gen 2 a bit quicker when tuned.
9e for £13k offer a power kit which turns these into ridiculous rocketships. 0-100mph in 4.7 secs. 225mph + VMAX
On gen 1 identical VTG turbos for both models so makes no difference but worth noting fuelling system not as good so gen 2 a bit quicker when tuned.
9e for £13k offer a power kit which turns these into ridiculous rocketships. 0-100mph in 4.7 secs. 225mph + VMAX
Gameface said:
IMI A said:
9e for £13k offer a power kit which turns these into ridiculous rocketships. 0-100mph in 4.7 secs. 225mph + VMAX
Can you post a link to that please?Headline figures.
0-60mph 2.2 seconds
0-100mph 5.0 seconds
0-150mph 10.9 seconds
60-130mph 5.9 seconds
0-186mph 20 seconds
13K plus VAT so 16K in total.
i had the same choice to make earlier this year, budget was a little higher and ended up going for a Turbo, not the S.
There was a better choice of options, features and colours to choose from.
The only thing I was a little more concerned about with the S were the PCCB's - I dont track the car and didnt see the benefit and didnt want to be landed with the cost if something went wrong with one of them.
Good luck in your search!
There was a better choice of options, features and colours to choose from.
The only thing I was a little more concerned about with the S were the PCCB's - I dont track the car and didnt see the benefit and didnt want to be landed with the cost if something went wrong with one of them.
Good luck in your search!
This may be completely irrelevant for you but from a practical perspective, I would much prefer five stud wheels as turbo rather than centre locks as turbo s. However rare they may be, p*nctures do happen and centre locks can be a pig. Qualification - so I have read, not experienced!!
Peter
Peter
northpolar said:
This may be completely irrelevant for you but from a practical perspective, I would much prefer five stud wheels as turbo rather than centre locks as turbo s. However rare they may be, p*nctures do happen and centre locks can be a pig. Qualification - so I have read, not experienced!!
Peter
Think that depends on the tyre places local to you...I am lucky enough to be close enough to a couple of good local options. 911’s have long since ceased to have a spare tyre so you’re looking at the compressor and chemical gunge/roadside recovery CL’s or not. Peter
GuitarPlayer63 said:
The only thing I was a little more concerned about with the S were the PCCB's - I dont track the car and didnt see the benefit and didnt want to be landed with the cost if something went wrong with one of them.
Good luck in your search!
PCCBs are generally regarded as more beneficial for road use - reduced unsprung weight (for improved ride, handling), no brake dust or corrosion, 100,000 mls + life expectancy, super consistent performance.Good luck in your search!
Never heard of anyone having to replace them in normal road use.
Koln-RS said:
GuitarPlayer63 said:
The only thing I was a little more concerned about with the S were the PCCB's - I dont track the car and didnt see the benefit and didnt want to be landed with the cost if something went wrong with one of them.
Good luck in your search!
PCCBs are generally regarded as more beneficial for road use - reduced unsprung weight (for improved ride, handling), no brake dust or corrosion, 100,000 mls + life expectancy, super consistent performance.Good luck in your search!
Never heard of anyone having to replace them in normal road use.
Porsche used to supply two aluminium rods along which a wheel could be slid to ensure no damage to a PCCB disc.
They stopped this ... you now have to spend a very small sum buying them if you specify PCCB's.
Anybody would think that they like replacing expensive discs ?
But the latest PCCB's are pretty good and there are now options other than Porsche replacements if you do have a problem ...
They stopped this ... you now have to spend a very small sum buying them if you specify PCCB's.
Anybody would think that they like replacing expensive discs ?
But the latest PCCB's are pretty good and there are now options other than Porsche replacements if you do have a problem ...
Deep said:
Taffy66 said:
I'd much rather have a 991.2 Turbo rather than a 991.1 Turbo S for the same money.
May I ask why?Another benefit is if you prefer steels then its available on the non S Turbo..The biggest advantage of the non S Turbo is you can avoid the extremely impractical centre locks and get the more sensible five nut alloys.All IMHO..
The centre lock wheels really are not an issue. All Porsches with these wheels come with an adapter (hidden within the frunk) which are simply placed over the central nut and then a standard wrench with extender pole can be used to remove. There is also a small tool to flip out the small centre cap.
All you need to do is find a tyre fitter that has a torque wrench so on replacement they can be tightened to correct torque setting as it states in the manual.
I had no problem with my 997 GT3 nor with my current 991.2 C4 GTS. Lots of tyre dealers assume only Porsche can remove centre locks and this is not the case. Just show them your adapter and read the manual, it’s so easy.
Cheers
Nick
All you need to do is find a tyre fitter that has a torque wrench so on replacement they can be tightened to correct torque setting as it states in the manual.
I had no problem with my 997 GT3 nor with my current 991.2 C4 GTS. Lots of tyre dealers assume only Porsche can remove centre locks and this is not the case. Just show them your adapter and read the manual, it’s so easy.
Cheers
Nick
its not an issue removing the wheels with centre locks, as you correctly state the removal tool is in the front boot.
However, the issue is when centre locks an PCCB collide !
It's all too easy when removing the wheels to clip the brake discs;
do this to a PCCB disc and you are likely to chip the edge ; result - new disc
There are aftermarket tools that screw into the hub to assist
https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/CLTOOL.html
I've just had 2 x alloys refurbed on my 991 GT3 - had the OPC remove the wheels and the repair guy did the job in their premises.
Minimises the risk.
However, the issue is when centre locks an PCCB collide !
It's all too easy when removing the wheels to clip the brake discs;
do this to a PCCB disc and you are likely to chip the edge ; result - new disc
There are aftermarket tools that screw into the hub to assist
https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/CLTOOL.html
I've just had 2 x alloys refurbed on my 991 GT3 - had the OPC remove the wheels and the repair guy did the job in their premises.
Minimises the risk.
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