V12V clutch
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RiknRoll

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178 posts

209 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Clutch slipping after 20,000 miles - anyone else had this problem around then? - it seems early to me. I have a timeless warranty still, and am waiting for the car to be inspected, but my local Aston dealer says clutches often will NOT be covered by the warranty. Just curious of others experiences.

woodsypedia

871 posts

183 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Is it slipping or squeaking?

Handyman2009

207 posts

133 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Definitely not a 6 or 7 Speed Manual car... And it must have been driven in "D" for most of its life

cayman-black

13,268 posts

246 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Why do you say that? I believe its a six-speed manual.

macdeb

8,759 posts

285 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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woodsypedia said:
Is it slipping or squeaking?
??

RiknRoll

Original Poster:

178 posts

209 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Definitely Slipping.

It's a 6spd Manual - of course, I don't think they even made sportshift on the V12 Vantage did they? only on the S.

S1-NOS

116 posts

106 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Clutches, like brakes, are classed as “wear and tear” so unlikely to be covered under warranty.

Clutch wear really depends on how it’s been driven. If it’s been tracked or driven hard then of course it can wear at 20k (or far less). 30-35k miles seems to be the norm.

JaseB

926 posts

291 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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For what it's worth mine is still going strong at 45k on it's original clutch?!

joinery80

544 posts

152 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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Mines 37k and all good here it did have a new one under warranty at 7k tho

Dewi 2

1,931 posts

95 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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My understanding is that the V12V has a twin plate clutch.

Is it true that the twin plate type, would usually have a longer life than the OEM single plate in the V8V ?


kev1966900

153 posts

109 months

Friday 29th November 2019
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If its squeaking i had mine replaced under warranty last year after a bit of an argument. On some of the early cars the release bearing makes a chirping noise when you pull away in first. That was at 20k miles

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

156 months

Saturday 30th November 2019
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RiknRoll said:
Clutch slipping after 20,000 miles - anyone else had this problem around then? - it seems early to me.
A well known forum member wore out his V12VR clutch after 19,000 miles so they have been known to wear that quickly but certainly not typical: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=15...

S1-NOS said:
Clutch wear really depends on how it’s been driven. If it’s been tracked or driven hard then of course it can wear at 20k (or far less). 30-35k miles seems to be the norm.
Yes, clutch wear depends on how it's been driven but being driven hard or tracked won't necessarily wear the clutch. Being driven in lots of stop/start traffic, reversed unsympathetically uphill or just driven badly will wear the clutch prematurely though. This video clip of my launch at Blyton Park shows a car being tracked and driven hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Acs4sjlmvk However, there is very little clutch slip involved in this start or the subsequent gear changes all around the track as they were all perfectly rev-matched; obviously rolleyes Yes, I risk other components of the clutch doing this (springs etc.) but I'm a child, it's fun and I love it smile

RiknRoll

Original Poster:

178 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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thanks for the responses all, I've driven manuals all my car life (20 years) and never had any history of burning them out - with either hard driving or not. And I would say the 4,000 miles i've put on this car were relatively longer distance/open road drives. Previous owner I believe was very careful. So maybe the first owner... will update in the next couple of weeks when Aston have given me their initial verdict.

JohnG1

3,487 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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What's the chassis number - last three digits of the VIN?

O to about 400 were affected by chirp on power take-up and replaced by AML as a manufacturing defect.

Mike at Bamford Rose got my clutch replaced by AML. I hadn't noticed as I don't drive hard!

RiknRoll

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178 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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its one of the last ones unfortunately, 2013 year. Already checked for a recall but there wasn't one for this car. My Local dealer says they will do a quick simple check to see if there's an oil leak causing it (which would therefore be a warranty job)... he says that's a problem that sometimes occurs. Going in weds for it.

Felonious

392 posts

204 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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Mine failed on a 2016 V12VS SSiii with 10k miles on it. Bafflingly, the flywheel was rusting. Warranty job.

Greathey

239 posts

86 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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RiknRoll said:
Clutch slipping after 20,000 miles - anyone else had this problem around then? - it seems early to me. I have a timeless warranty still, and am waiting for the car to be inspected, but my local Aston dealer says clutches often will NOT be covered by the warranty. Just curious of others experiences.
From what I amassed from forums, the manual actually is worse when it comes to clutches. I remember someone saying he needed a new clutch in 4000 miles.

Mine is V8 SS and I smelled the clutch burn a few times especially when reversing up a hill and when changing gear at 5 - 6 k rpm

What kills the clutch are usually steep inclines when pulling out especially in reverse, stop start traffic, resting your left foot on the pedal. For sportshift, both D and comfort mode seem to reduce the life as well.

Spare 3-4 k or spend a bit more for an improved aftermarket light weight flywheel

The V12 Way

945 posts

114 months

Monday 2nd December 2019
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Greathey said:
From what I amassed from forums, the manual actually is worse when it comes to clutches. I remember someone saying he needed a new clutch in 4000 miles.

Mine is V8 SS and I smelled the clutch burn a few times especially when reversing up a hill and when changing gear at 5 - 6 k rpm

What kills the clutch are usually steep inclines when pulling out especially in reverse, stop start traffic, resting your left foot on the pedal. For sportshift, both D and comfort mode seem to reduce the life as well.

Spare 3-4 k or spend a bit more for an improved aftermarket light weight flywheel
Greathey, you are talking about the V8 which is completely different to the V12V clutch, the V8 is well known for eating clutches. Going back to the other point, mine chirps on take off some times, could it be replaced under warranty?

JohnG1

3,487 posts

235 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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The V12 Way said:
Greathey said:
From what I amassed from forums, the manual actually is worse when it comes to clutches. I remember someone saying he needed a new clutch in 4000 miles.

Mine is V8 SS and I smelled the clutch burn a few times especially when reversing up a hill and when changing gear at 5 - 6 k rpm

What kills the clutch are usually steep inclines when pulling out especially in reverse, stop start traffic, resting your left foot on the pedal. For sportshift, both D and comfort mode seem to reduce the life as well.

Spare 3-4 k or spend a bit more for an improved aftermarket light weight flywheel
Greathey, you are talking about the V8 which is completely different to the V12V clutch, the V8 is well known for eating clutches. Going back to the other point, mine chirps on take off some times, could it be replaced under warranty?
What's you chassis number, last four digits of the VIN. That's how to check, some number around 394 was when the clutch assembly was modified. Below that number is an item AML have replaced for some...

The V12 Way

945 posts

114 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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0401 so might be in luck