Hard Brexit back on the table. How are we feeling about that
Hard Brexit back on the table. How are we feeling about that
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Heaveho

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6,876 posts

198 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Just throwing it out there.

Yell_M3

389 posts

224 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Absolutely fine.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,181 posts

174 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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No complaints. I'm a remainer but hard Brexit was a clear possibility of Boris's fking awful deal, that the public voted for by a large majority.

End of story.

pmanson

13,388 posts

277 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Fine here, you can't negotiate with one arm tied behind your back. We have to be willing to walk away

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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it was never off the table once Boris called the election.

Ziplobb

1,547 posts

308 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Excellent exacty what I personally have always wanted and indeed voted for

i4got

5,928 posts

102 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Who are we to argue with the will of Parliament.

TTwiggy

11,799 posts

228 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Yeah, own it mother-humpers wink

IanJ9375

1,622 posts

240 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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So No deal, the NHS being replaced with an insurance based system and the removal of employee protections all within days of the vote.
Anybody tell me how trading on WTO compared to some common market parity would affect them personally?


Allegedly Mark Twain but no proof - "it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"

gooner1

10,223 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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TTwiggy said:
Yeah, own it mother-humpers wink
Glad to daddy-shaggers wink

paulrockliffe

16,412 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Brooking10 said:
it was never off the table once Boris called the election.
It only came back on the table when Corbyn's ego made him whip in favour of an election the polls said he couldn't win. If keeping it off the table was so important there wouldn't have been an election.

don'tbesilly

15,362 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Hopeful and extremely optimistic that what I wished for will now come to pass.

The feeling is the same feeling as that felt on the 24th June 2016 after putting a cross in a box which denoted I wanted to leave the EU.

'Hard Brexit' didn't exist back then being a description conjured up by Remainers it was just Remain or Leave, we'll do the latter on the 31/01/20, and then exit the transition period with or without a deal at the end of 2020.
Not overly bothered whether a deal is negotiated or not, I suspect 'No Deal' is more likely right now and would probably be the best way forward IMO.

toon10

7,050 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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A hard Brexit or the terrible May deal (tweaked by BJ). Hmm, either way it's not going to give us what we have now. A hard Brexit will cause a lot of pain for a lot of people in the UK but the thinking seems to be that we should put up with some short term pain to be free of the evil EU. Oddly enough, a lot of people who are less affected (the ones who don't rely so much on free trade within the EU) are prepared to suffer this short term pain the most.

We'll find out in the coming months/years about how people really feel about having a hard Brexit on the table if we don't agree a deal.

stew-STR160

8,020 posts

262 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Crack on.

GoodCompany

308 posts

87 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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I'll be struggling...




Not to experience schadenfreude for the next few years at the turkeys who have voted for Christmas. They'll then deny ever voting for Brexit. wink

BevR

805 posts

167 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Its what people (not including me) seemed to vote for, I expect ti to happen.

I imagine it will be like the Iraq war in that in ten years time no one will admit to supporting it despite opinion polls showing about 54% in favour in 2003.

All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.

soupdragon1

4,741 posts

121 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Not feeling good about a hard Brexit. What will be will be now that Boris has his majority.

Mrr T

14,922 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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BevR said:
Its what people (not including me) seemed to vote for, I expect ti to happen.

I imagine it will be like the Iraq war in that in ten years time no one will admit to supporting it despite opinion polls showing about 54% in favour in 2003.

All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.
If I remember the election campaign. BJ promised his WA was the best ever and there was no chance we would leave with out a deal. Surely he was not lying?

The funny bit is the best WA ever means the UK has to resolve the Irish border issue within the UK.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,181 posts

174 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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BevR said:
All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.
Absolutely right. When it all goes to st, it'll be the fault of the EU/remoaners/Swinson/Corbyn/Ken Clark/Letwin and anyone else in the firing line. Everyone apart from those who voted for Brexit (if any of them can be found).

In generations to come, Remain will be like the French resistance, everyone's granddad was in it.

cb31

1,383 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Mrr T said:
If I remember the election campaign. BJ promised his WA was the best ever and there was no chance we would leave with out a deal. Surely he was not lying?
You can only negotiate a deal if you have a willing partner on the other side. If they won't negotiate sensibly then we can also sensibly say no thanks to a deal.

Fine with me.