Hard Brexit back on the table. How are we feeling about that
Discussion
So No deal, the NHS being replaced with an insurance based system and the removal of employee protections all within days of the vote.
Anybody tell me how trading on WTO compared to some common market parity would affect them personally?
Allegedly Mark Twain but no proof - "it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"
Anybody tell me how trading on WTO compared to some common market parity would affect them personally?
Allegedly Mark Twain but no proof - "it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"
Hopeful and extremely optimistic that what I wished for will now come to pass.
The feeling is the same feeling as that felt on the 24th June 2016 after putting a cross in a box which denoted I wanted to leave the EU.
'Hard Brexit' didn't exist back then being a description conjured up by Remainers it was just Remain or Leave, we'll do the latter on the 31/01/20, and then exit the transition period with or without a deal at the end of 2020.
Not overly bothered whether a deal is negotiated or not, I suspect 'No Deal' is more likely right now and would probably be the best way forward IMO.
The feeling is the same feeling as that felt on the 24th June 2016 after putting a cross in a box which denoted I wanted to leave the EU.
'Hard Brexit' didn't exist back then being a description conjured up by Remainers it was just Remain or Leave, we'll do the latter on the 31/01/20, and then exit the transition period with or without a deal at the end of 2020.
Not overly bothered whether a deal is negotiated or not, I suspect 'No Deal' is more likely right now and would probably be the best way forward IMO.
A hard Brexit or the terrible May deal (tweaked by BJ). Hmm, either way it's not going to give us what we have now. A hard Brexit will cause a lot of pain for a lot of people in the UK but the thinking seems to be that we should put up with some short term pain to be free of the evil EU. Oddly enough, a lot of people who are less affected (the ones who don't rely so much on free trade within the EU) are prepared to suffer this short term pain the most.
We'll find out in the coming months/years about how people really feel about having a hard Brexit on the table if we don't agree a deal.
We'll find out in the coming months/years about how people really feel about having a hard Brexit on the table if we don't agree a deal.
Its what people (not including me) seemed to vote for, I expect ti to happen.
I imagine it will be like the Iraq war in that in ten years time no one will admit to supporting it despite opinion polls showing about 54% in favour in 2003.
All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.
I imagine it will be like the Iraq war in that in ten years time no one will admit to supporting it despite opinion polls showing about 54% in favour in 2003.
All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.
BevR said:
Its what people (not including me) seemed to vote for, I expect ti to happen.
I imagine it will be like the Iraq war in that in ten years time no one will admit to supporting it despite opinion polls showing about 54% in favour in 2003.
All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.
If I remember the election campaign. BJ promised his WA was the best ever and there was no chance we would leave with out a deal. Surely he was not lying?I imagine it will be like the Iraq war in that in ten years time no one will admit to supporting it despite opinion polls showing about 54% in favour in 2003.
All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.
The funny bit is the best WA ever means the UK has to resolve the Irish border issue within the UK.
BevR said:
All we can be sure of is that if any of the forecasts are even remotely right and it is a disaster then it will always be the fault of the EU, no blame will ever be accepted on this side of the channel.
Absolutely right. When it all goes to s
t, it'll be the fault of the EU/remoaners/Swinson/Corbyn/Ken Clark/Letwin and anyone else in the firing line. Everyone apart from those who voted for Brexit (if any of them can be found).In generations to come, Remain will be like the French resistance, everyone's granddad was in it.
Mrr T said:
If I remember the election campaign. BJ promised his WA was the best ever and there was no chance we would leave with out a deal. Surely he was not lying?
You can only negotiate a deal if you have a willing partner on the other side. If they won't negotiate sensibly then we can also sensibly say no thanks to a deal. Fine with me.
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