Macan PCCBs
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Max13

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73 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Looking at a used Macan and one has caught my eye with PCCBs, what are everyone’s thoughts on having a car like this with ceramics?
The car is going to be used daily, and will lead a relatively easy life, so I don’t have to worry about overheating the brakes like if I was on track. As I see it the benefits will be the longevity of the discs and the reduction in mass on an already relatively heavy car.

The cons will be the eventual cost of replacement and the negative views associated with this.

I’m not trying to start a debate on steels vs ceramics, this is a used car that already has them fitted, and you don’t see many. Has anyone got any experience of this?

Ta

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

287 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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they should last the life of the car.

thelostboy

4,697 posts

247 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Would love to try one with PCCBs. I'd snap it up!

MrVert

4,455 posts

261 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Buy it, they're great discs.

Use it, if they fail, fit steels.

Cheib

24,949 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Ceramics would put me off a Macan....purely because they are a liability if stones get caught in the calliper etc. Very expensive to fix ! I suspect the new PSCB’s which I think are only available on 4x4’s are Porsche’s way of selling upgraded brakes to Macan and Cayenne owners because PCCB’s have such a poor uptake.

I very much doubt you can notice the difference in the weight.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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If you want to tun the extended warranty at any point you'll need to have PCCBs in good condition. Any chips, scores etc and you'll need them replacing at £££££££££. Unless you're made of money I'd give them a wide berth. They're completely unnecessary on a regular car and at best a trinket on a GT car.

Note: I'm very biased against them on any car, YMMV etc.

JayK12

2,369 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Twinfan said:
If you want to tun the extended warranty at any point you'll need to have PCCBs in good condition. Any chips, scores etc and you'll need them replacing at £££££££££. Unless you're made of money I'd give them a wide berth. They're completely unnecessary on a regular car and at best a trinket on a GT car.

Note: I'm very biased against them on any car, YMMV etc.
There not a warranty item though.....are they?

Geoff997

116 posts

254 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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They are not covered under warranty BUT they are part of the 111 point check to renew. If using for off-road, avoid.

jh001

634 posts

199 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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When changing a tyre you or the person doing the swap will have to be super careful not to catch the rim of the wheel on the rotor when fitting or removing as they chip easily and as said above it will cost £££ to replace.

I wanted my tyres changing on a previous GT3 with PCCB's, I advised the tyre shop that if they damaged any of the rotors they would be paying, they politely declined the job!

As stated above, PCCB's are a bit overkill for a Macan although I do admit they look cool and you will get no brake dust.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

287 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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it's a big plus imo

no rusty hubs, no brake dust and no new disks to buy at ££££

modern Porsche steels are VERY expensive to replace.

triple win imo, as I doubt any of these go off road and the wheels are big so the risk of stone getting trapped are minor on the road.

I have 3 cars with CCB's utter convert.

arcamalpha

1,113 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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I run a Macan with pccbs. They’re great.

- They give more brake pedal bite which is nice with such a heavy car.
- lighter which probably has a marginal benefit to ride quality.
- no dust down the side of the car




PSB1

4,107 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Max13 said:
Looking at a used Macan and one has caught my eye with PCCBs, what are everyone’s thoughts on having a car like this with ceramics?
The car is going to be used daily, and will lead a relatively easy life, so I don’t have to worry about overheating the brakes like if I was on track. As I see it the benefits will be the longevity of the discs and the reduction in mass on an already relatively heavy car.

The cons will be the eventual cost of replacement and the negative views associated with this.

I’m not trying to start a debate on steels vs ceramics, this is a used car that already has them fitted, and you don’t see many. Has anyone got any experience of this?

Ta
The Silverstone one? Nice, very nice!

Geneve

3,993 posts

241 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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IMO one of the nicest options you can have on a sporting Porsche, with a number of clear benefits.

I think the advantages are less obvious on an SUV, but it wouldn't put me off buying one with them.

If they get 'damaged' they should be covered under the vehicle's motor insurance policy - same as any other accidental damage.