VOIP Router + 4G Calls
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_Nathan_

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506 posts

279 months

Friday 20th December 2019
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Hello

Bit of a complicated situation : My house only has a mobile 4G (Three UK) connection only which provides free unlimited data + calls

I own both a Huawei B525 and B310 4G Router


I want to be able to make calls using the free inclusive minutes from my 4G SIM plan, but also receive VOIP phone calls (old landline number)

Would the Huawei B525 be able to handle both 4G + VOIP through the one phone socket on the back ?

Or would I use an ATA with the Huawei B310 ??


I would be open to buying a new 4G router or VOIP box. But ideally less boxes and cables if possible

Thankyou in advance

Bikerjon

2,211 posts

192 months

Friday 20th December 2019
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_Nathan_ said:
Would the Huawei B525 be able to handle both 4G + VOIP through the one phone socket on the back ?
I'm not sure if VOIP over 4G would work because you wouldn't typically get your own external IP address with this setup. Even if you did the quality may not be great due to high latency. A handset plugged into the RJ11 port would use the mobile minutes but be aware the router will most likely drop down to 3G while you are using the phone. Maybe consider forwarding the VOIP number to the mobile number of the router?

_Nathan_

Original Poster:

506 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Thanks for your considered reply.

I think I will try a Simens Gigaset VOIP phone which will allow me to receive VOIP and make voice calls through the SIM

S6PNJ

5,852 posts

312 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Bikerjon said:
I'm not sure if VOIP over 4G would work because you wouldn't typically get your own external IP address with this setup. Even if you did the quality may not be great due to high latency. A handset plugged into the RJ11 port would use the mobile minutes but be aware the router will most likely drop down to 3G while you are using the phone. Maybe consider forwarding the VOIP number to the mobile number of the router?
My home phone is VOIP over a wifi broadband link (not via telephone line, 3G/4G or fibre, but local provider) and I think I have a pretty permanent IP address (but it might change upon 'his' equipment reset etc) - but I can access my VOIP account through a 'softphone' app over any internet medium (3G/4G/neighbours wifi / public wifi etc) so I'm not sure I agree that it needs a permanent IP address to work. Maybe some VOIP providers do, but mine certainly doesn't.

ooo000ooo

2,647 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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VoIP doesn't require a static IP address, you're router will most likely need sip alg disabled to allow things to work ok. 4g latency may cause call quality issues.

Glasgowrob

3,349 posts

152 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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we use voip over 3g/4g for work without any issue

theres no noticeable degradation in quality that we can assertain.

PushedDover

7,683 posts

84 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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Hello all and hope ok to open an old thread ?


Looking to move and take my so far excellent 4G EE Wifi set up, and drop my landline completely.
I currently get something like this :


I have a Gigaset handset - but not a VOIP conversion type box. I am told I can buy the Gigaset GO unit though for £40.


Would using the Gigaset set up coupled to someone like Sipgate work to create a VOIP landline? Or the fact that the 4G connection IP address changes on reboots cause an issue ?

S6PNJ

5,852 posts

312 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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PushedDover said:
Looking to move and take my so far excellent 4G EE Wifi set up, and drop my landline completely.

I have a Gigaset handset - but not a VOIP conversion type box. I am told I can buy the Gigaset GO unit though for £40.

Would using the Gigaset set up coupled to someone like Sipgate work to create a VOIP landline? Or the fact that the 4G connection IP address changes on reboots cause an issue ?
I don't know about your specific hardware, but I use a Linksys ATA PAP2T and my VOIP provider MISO comms. A change of IP address is irrelevant to my system as I can use it on any internet connection and there is nowhere in the settings to add the WAN IP address. Surely one of the main points of VOIP is that you are not tied geographically (and hence by a fixed IP)? I've sent you a link to my VOIP provider so you can take a closer look, or I would have done but your profile doesn't accept emails - email me for more info.

PushedDover

7,683 posts

84 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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S6PNJ said:
I don't know about your specific hardware, but I use a Linksys ATA PAP2T and my VOIP provider MISO comms. A change of IP address is irrelevant to my system as I can use it on any internet connection and there is nowhere in the settings to add the WAN IP address. Surely one of the main points of VOIP is that you are not tied geographically (and hence by a fixed IP)? I've sent you a link to my VOIP provider so you can take a closer look, or I would have done but your profile doesn't accept emails - email me for more info.
Thanks - first I'll have a look at how to open up emails in my profile !

I found the useful step by step of Slushbox in the other thread on similar subject : https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

And with that signed up for the Sipgate PAYG Voip. The reality is I want to keep my landline for incoming calls 'in case' . - although unlikely to use - so an occassioanl PAYG will be fine.

I've also found some EE 4G users say they need to disable or change the settings from IPV4V6 to IPV4 ??

I've ordered a Gigaset GO box, so hop[efully I can have some luck in the set ups. Perhaps will also need another DecoM5 puck in time too, or a switch.