can i make non smart lights smart

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Is there an easy way to make non smart light fittings smart? Not replacing bulbs talking existing led downlights etc

[Durzel]

Do-able, but not cheap.. for example:

Lightwave L21 Smart Series Dimmer, 280 W, 230 V, Stainless Steel, 1 Gang
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075XTWJRR/ref=cm_sw_r...

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Do they do them as a grid system? need 3 dimmers and 1 switch really

[Rollin]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Controller-Compatible-Con...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GSK1HVP

[filthypig]

I’ve not got them but a friend has and rates these Sonoff smart switches.

https://uk-m.banggood.com/SONOFF-T0-EUUSUK-AC-100-...

[Ambleton]

With virtually all of the smart switches (instead if smart light fittings/bulbs) you will require at the switch end a perm live, a switched live and a neutral.

Nearly every single light switch in the uk is wired only with a live and switched live, no neutral.

So before you go ordering any smart switches, just ensure you have a neutral, also check that the boxes are deep enough as the switches are usually deeper

[robbieduncan]

You can get Zwave modules that fit behind the existing switch (if the back box is deep enough) that don’t require neutrals and make non-smart lights smart

[ARHarh]

Sonoff do those switches for the UK with no neutral wire.

[Murph7355]

Trustmeimadoctor said:

Do they do them as a grid system? need 3 dimmers and 1 switch really

Do you mean so that all the switches act in unison to do "scenes"?

If so, yes. Though you'll likely need a scene plate and/or remote to get what you want. There's also a lot more flexibility if you connect them to a Link Plus AIUI, including Alex/Google Home/IFTTT compatibility (not yet pulled the trigger on one, but will be soon).

Lightwave are a bit marmite. Unlike marmite, I really like their kit - got me out of a few holes with lighting control in my place (old house, re-wiring would be really messy but using a selection of Lightwave products have a good set up).