Post full respray wax?

[caduceus]

My Chimaera is undergoing a full color change respray from green to Imperial blue.
My question is which wax should I use to protect my investment? I want to build up some layers of protective wax to the freshly painted body to help preserve the finish as much as I can.
I'm a little out of touch with waxes, etc these days. But way back when I took an interest, Zymol Royale (or something like that) was the preferred application. What is now?

Many thanks
Cad

[paintman]

Ask the painters how long you should leave the new paint before doing anything to it.

[Belle427]

Theses new generation of ceramic coatings are worth investigating, as so the self healing paint protection film systems.
Can’t help much more sorry but I’ve seen them being used on some you tube demos and they look very good.

[anonymous-user]

Probably can't wax it for a few weeks if not months.

[caduceus]

I was going to ask the painter how long I should leave it for once completed. Was just wondering what is out there to use once it can be applied.
Collinite No 845 any good?

[gweaver]

caduceus said:

Collinite No 845 any good?

That's a popular one, though a bit different to the paste waxes. In this climate it needs to be warmed through (usually in a bucket of warm water) before application. For some reason it's often applied with a polishing machine.

Other durable and good value paste wax/sealant options are Bilt Hamber Double Speed Wax, Collinite 476, Finish Kare 1000P and Soft99 Fusso Coat. TurtleWax Sealant Hydrophobic Wax is a great spray sealant (cheap and durable), and Gyeon CanCoat and TAC Systems Moonlight are popular "light" ceramic coatings.

Personally, I'd go the spray sealant or paste sealant route. I've ceramic coated my wheels, but couldn't be bothered with the palaver (prep, safety/PPE, ruined microfibre, toppers/maintenance) of doing all of the bodywork with a ceramic myself.

[LeeJV]

gweaver said:

That's a popular one, though a bit different to the paste waxes. In this climate it needs to be warmed through (usually in a bucket of warm water) before application. For some reason it's often applied with a polishing machine.

Other durable and good value paste wax/sealant options are Bilt Hamber Double Speed Wax, Collinite 476, Finish Kare 1000P and Soft99 Fusso Coat. TurtleWax Sealant Hydrophobic Wax is a great spray sealant (cheap and durable), and Gyeon CanCoat and TAC Systems Moonlight are popular "light" ceramic coatings.

Personally, I'd go the spray sealant or paste sealant route. I've ceramic coated my wheels, but couldn't be bothered with the palaver (prep, safety/PPE, ruined microfibre, toppers/maintenance) of doing all of the bodywork with a ceramic myself.

As above all of the above are great products, Gyeon can coat, is a great intro to the ceramic world as is TAC, and don't suffer with the down sides of water spotting, and easily maintained with a good quality snow foam and shampoo.

Some other products that I have used and will happily recommend are:
Wowo's Crystal sealant.. its a spray on, wipe off and buff product that works on every external surface and is very chemical resistant and also works as a great base layer to their flagship wax "Wowo's contact 121". again its a great wax and last really well too.

Infifnty Wax have just released a brand new form of ceramic products that are very well priced up with some of the best.

Angelwax also has the same offerings with a free Ceramic Q/D worth £18 when you spend over £70., I have used their glass coatings, Q/D. glass cleaner and wash. shampoo, interior detailer etc and all are really great products.

Unfortunatly questions like yours usually open a can of worms, there are a hundred great products out there and everybody has a different experience with them and maybe different end goals.

One more thing I would seriously reccomemend while getting your car painted is BASF IGLOSS... its also know as a "ceramic laquer" due to its extreme hard wearing nature and scratch resistance to washing process.

As for when you can apply these on new paints, most seem to advise around 6 weeks, this allows the paint to fully cure and vapour before sealing it with any product.

[caduceus]

Thanks for the replies chaps.

Am I right assuming a paste wax, warmed up and applied by hand is the most durable?

[LeeJV]

No not really matey, depends on the paste wax , most natural waxes are less durable than synthetic/ polymer based ones and hard waxes are again generally good for 4-6mnths. its a bit of a minefield really mate and you can find yourself going round in circles trying to find the "ultimate" Miracle wax..

From what I can gather, you are leaning more towards a wax based product and if you really enjoy detailing as I do then I would look at some of the wax based products that I mentioned above

If you look on the angelwax site they do a really good selection of waxes and do sample pots so you don't have to take the plunge on full size pots.
Angelwax wax "Fith Element" and "Enigma" are the flagship and very durable. and also offer a titainuim sealant/ Primer for all their products "TI22" this has a high tolerance to acidic chemical, Bird bomb's etc.

take a look at here for some real up to date info that may help answer many of your questions..
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_4lRohBzY20wjsFG...

Hope that helps fella

[gweaver]

LeeJV said:

If you look on the angelwax site they do a really good selection of waxes and do sample pots so you don't have to take the plunge on full size pots.
Angelwax wax "Fith Element" and "Enigma" are the flagship and very durable. and also offer a titainuim sealant/ Primer for all their products "TI22" this has a high tolerance to acidic chemical, Bird bomb's etc.

I've just seen the price of that Angelwax stuff
Are you on commission?!

Good shout on the YouTube channel though. I'd suggest watching some of these, depending on how far down the detailing rabbit hole you want to go:

• How to wax a car https://youtu.be/feE2SYMee7k
• The part of the Bilt Hamber video on Double Speed Wax https://youtu.be/4M0y7IWIZAc?t=2458
• Best wax sealant 1 ( https://youtu.be/SUGp-rmGah4?t=760 ) & 2 ( https://youtu.be/Lb7bHfaaBjo?t=231 )
• Fusso Coat 12 month old ( https://youtu.be/DptKHVateZA ) & new ( https://youtu.be/joCnCUhQKoQ ) formulation

There's loads of info on Detailing World about waxes, sealants etc., but to keep things simple I'd suggest trying the following:
Bilt Hamber AutoFoam (pre-wash/snow foam), AutoWash (shampoo) & Double Speed Wax (comes with a cloth and applicator). Get a Screwfix garden pump sprayer for the AutoFoam, a decent mitt for the AutoWash, and some decent microfibre cloths (I prefer in2detailing and CarPro cloths) to remove the wax. That lot comes to about £60, and comprises a minimal kit to safely wash and then wax the car.

If you're feeling flush, get some tar and glue remover, iron fallout remover, polish and panel wipe as well - then you can go to town on the prep stages before applying the wax.

[gweaver]

caduceus said:

Am I right assuming a paste wax, warmed up and applied by hand is the most durable?

Most durable paste wax/sealant is reckoned by many to be Soft99 Fusso Coat 12 month, but it's also a bit more finicky to use than some of the other paste waxes that I mentioned. A lot of users reckon around 8 months durability,give or take depending on garaging and mileage. The old version is around £22 (if you can still find it), but the new version is around £30.

Double Speed Wax is only £15 and is a really good all rounder. FK1000P I think is around £20 and is very easy to use, but probably less durable.

If you really want durable, and you're prepared to spend hundred of pounds, get a ceramic coat installed by a professional.

[caduceus]

Thanks again for the replies chaps.
Yes, I do enjoy a bit of detailing in the garage with a sandwich and a can when I get the time. SO a wax based one would be great for the TVR. The Angelwax stuff sounds pretty good. Agreed it is a bit steep, but the old addage 'you get what you pay for' may be true.

Just been watching the Youtube channel.....good content and I've watched 3 already. Interesting stuff.

As already mentioned, I need to ask the painter. He might know a particular product.

Thanks again
Cad

[gweaver]

If you remember, let us know how you get on. Respray and wax.

[caduceus]

Will do