Is This The Most Blatant GT3RS WP Flip To Date
Is This The Most Blatant GT3RS WP Flip To Date
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Juno

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4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Thinking there were none for sale this GT3RS advert has just popped up

Delivery miles,reg 16th Nov already SORN to get the RFL back and advertised at £245k

I wonder if it is the original supplying dealer

Car is Grey in colour I believe

This should get Yellows pulse racing

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-GT3-RS-130...

cayman-black

13,251 posts

239 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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WTF do they not realise the market is on a down? Way too much money...

Juno

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4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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cayman-black said:
WTF do they not realise the market is on a down? Way too much money...
The grey one in Bristol sold in days for similar money last week

It is the only WP car for sale in the UK as far as I can see

Nuttcase

633 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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There was a crayon advertised by Belfast OPC though the photos were substituted for a Panamera a few days later and then it was completely removed. Not before I took a screenshot.


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

288 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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I thought Porsche dealers in the UK were banned from advertising new ltd ed cars for 12 months.

Make you sick the back handers and internal fraud still going on in this market.

Ford nailed it in the GT, not been a single car for sale until now and then I have only seen one.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Porsche911R said:
I thought Porsche dealers in the UK were banned from advertising new ltd ed cars for 12 months.

Make you sick the back handers and internal fraud still going on in this market.

Ford nailed it in the GT, not been a single car for sale until now and then I have only seen one.
Ford did a good job in stopping flippers getting the Ford GT and a lesson to Porsche..John Cena decided to flip his Ford GT only to be successfully sued by Ford for breach of contract..Porsche are walking on very thin ice ATM as a lot of their traditional customers are buying Maccas, Lambos and Lotus as they're sick of playing Porsche's greedy silly GT allocation games.
Porsche cars have become too heavy and mainstream in their quest to increase market share by developing cars more appealing to the masses..The Lotus Exige highlights where Porsche have gone wrong in terms of building real drivers cars.The Exige 430 Cup is a massive 330Kgs lighter than the new GT4 and sounds like what a sports car should IMO.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

288 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Taffy66 said:
Ford did a good job in stopping flippers getting the Ford GT and a lesson to Porsche..John Cena decided to flip his Ford GT only to be successfully sued by Ford for breach of contract..Porsche are walking on very thin ice ATM as a lot of their traditional customers are buying Maccas, Lambos and Lotus as they're sick of playing Porsche's greedy silly GT allocation games.
Porsche cars have become too heavy and mainstream in their quest to increase market share by developing cars more appealing to the masses..The Lotus Exige highlights where Porsche have gone wrong in terms of building real drivers cars.The Exige 430 Cup is a massive 330Kgs lighter than the new GT4 and sounds like what a sports car should IMO.
I agree but the new GT3 engine is one of the best engines ever built. And the cars are cheap for what you get.

GT3 is a great model, the new RS has tweaks to get that sub 7 minute ring time in a road going NASP engine car.

Lotus can only dream of these sort of engines and those ring times.

So when people pay overs for a GT3 RS, that’s still cheaper than buying a lambo perf new.!!! And I would rather the RS.

Cheib

25,076 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Amazing how some of the “gold dust” PTS allocations have found their way to flippers.

Or is it that the OPC’s concerned struck a deal with favoured clients to allocate them a PTS build slot having already agreed a deal to take the cars straight back and share the even bigger profits on a PTS car ?

I know where my money is.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Porsche911R said:
I agree but the new GT3 engine is one of the best engines ever built. And the cars are cheap for what you get.

GT3 is a great model, the new RS has tweaks to get that sub 7 minute ring time in a road going NASP engine car.

Lotus can only dream of these sort of engines and those ring times.

So when people pay overs for a GT3 RS, that’s still cheaper than buying a lambo perf new.!!! And I would rather the RS.
I agree on the new RS as its an astoundingly brilliant car and Porsche at their very best..Its just all the other mainstream cars they now make hold little appeal to me personally..I can't see me selling my RS unless my financial situation worsens to force me to sell it..

Juno

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4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Porsche911R said:
Taffy66 said:
Ford did a good job in stopping flippers getting the Ford GT and a lesson to Porsche..John Cena decided to flip his Ford GT only to be successfully sued by Ford for breach of contract..Porsche are walking on very thin ice ATM as a lot of their traditional customers are buying Maccas, Lambos and Lotus as they're sick of playing Porsche's greedy silly GT allocation games.
Porsche cars have become too heavy and mainstream in their quest to increase market share by developing cars more appealing to the masses..The Lotus Exige highlights where Porsche have gone wrong in terms of building real drivers cars.The Exige 430 Cup is a massive 330Kgs lighter than the new GT4 and sounds like what a sports car should IMO.
I agree but the new GT3 engine is one of the best engines ever built. And the cars are cheap for what you get.

GT3 is a great model, the new RS has tweaks to get that sub 7 minute ring time in a road going NASP engine car.

Lotus can only dream of these sort of engines and those ring times.

So when people pay overs for a GT3 RS, that’s still cheaper than buying a lambo perf new.!!! And I would rather the RS.
That's why the few GT3RS that have gone to market have sold very quickly and at substantial overs, whereas the Pistas,Speciale 600LT 675LT's etc etc etc seem to be just sitting and sitting.

You can't really say the 991 GT3RS WP was over produced by looking at the lack of cars for sale compared to the others,just one at the moment I believe!

Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Cheib said:
Amazing how some of the “gold dust” PTS allocations have found their way to flippers.

Or is it that the OPC’s concerned struck a deal with favoured clients to allocate them a PTS build slot having already agreed a deal to take the cars straight back and share the even bigger profits on a PTS car ?

I know where my money is.
Nail on head.

Juno

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4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Cheib said:
Amazing how some of the “gold dust” PTS allocations have found their way to flippers.

Or is it that the OPC’s concerned struck a deal with favoured clients to allocate them a PTS build slot having already agreed a deal to take the cars straight back and share the even bigger profits on a PTS car ?

I know where my money is.
You probably have a very solid point there!!!

Juno

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4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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The ad says special Slate Grey Non Metallic,that sounds like PTS.

If the plate is GY I think that would indicate that the car was registered in London.

With only one PTS slot or less per dealer that would narrow it down quite a bit and therefore it is possible that it wasn't supplied by OPC Mid Sussex?

JulierPass

685 posts

253 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Gents, this is with my OPC and I know the owner of the car. He is unfortunately is getting divorced and all of his toys must go. He offered the car to me before he gave it back to Mid Sussex. I agree re the pricing of it, and I told him so. He will take a bid if anyone is interested, but under thh circumstances he needs to be seen to not be off loading it at below market rates for obvious reasons.

Juno

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4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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JulierPass said:
Gents, this is with my OPC and I know the owner of the car. He is unfortunately is getting divorced and all of his toys must go. He offered the car to me before he gave it back to Mid Sussex. I agree re the pricing of it, and I told him so. He will take a bid if anyone is interested, but under thh circumstances he needs to be seen to not be off loading it at below market rates for obvious reasons.
I think if I by another one ill be getting a divorce as well rofl

Do you think she will forgive him if he sells the car?

Juno

Original Poster:

4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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JulierPass said:
Gents, this is with my OPC and I know the owner of the car. He is unfortunately is getting divorced and all of his toys must go. He offered the car to me before he gave it back to Mid Sussex. I agree re the pricing of it, and I told him so. He will take a bid if anyone is interested, but under thh circumstances he needs to be seen to not be off loading it at below market rates for obvious reasons.
The registration indicates a London car,did he get it from London? I might be wrong but if so wouldn't you sell it back through the same dealer to keep in the good books?

Adrian-9iafn

368 posts

95 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Out of principle I refuse to pay over list. It made me sick last year when they finished the 991.2 GT3 production run and dealers could advertise over list. There were 37 on the Porsche site all bar 2 under 2k miles, so not even run in. There was no other Porsche model with more for sale than 991.2 GT3's at the time, rare ?....

PORSCHE YOU NEED TO LISTEN AND SUPPORT THE ENTHUSIAST, not the cabriolet buying flipper..... Even though I paid list price for my 3 year old 991.1 GT3 and it's probably lost £25k in 3,000 miles and 20 months ownership, I am glad GT3 prices are crashing. Why ?

1. Because I bought my 991 GT3 to keep, I was unable to buy on new and I love it and appreciate it
2. Because the flippers will need to think if they will make anything and bottle before signing. Porsche 991.2 GT3 production numbers are toppy, these are not rare cars.
3. I loved buying my 964 RS and not caring about resale, I bought it because I loved it and was tempted away from ownership as prices rose and I could no longer enjoy it in the same way.




Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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JulierPass said:
Gents, this is with my OPC and I know the owner of the car. He is unfortunately is getting divorced and all of his toys must go. He offered the car to me before he gave it back to Mid Sussex. I agree re the pricing of it, and I told him so. He will take a bid if anyone is interested, but under thh circumstances he needs to be seen to not be off loading it at below market rates for obvious reasons.
Just goes to show that some buyers personal circumstances do unfortunately worsen through external issues..This flippper is hereby exonerated of all blame and shall from this day forth be re-classified as a genuine enthusiast.smile

Juno

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4,485 posts

272 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Taffy66 said:
Just goes to show that some buyers personal circumstances do unfortunately worsen through external issues..This flippper is hereby exonerated of all blame and shall from this day forth be re-classified as a genuine enthusiast.smile
Looking on the upside Taffy (not that there is one for the poor chap selling it) that means if it wasn't for a divorce there would be no WP GT3RS for sale in the UK,that must say something about the current car

Cheib

25,076 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Taffy66 said:
JulierPass said:
Gents, this is with my OPC and I know the owner of the car. He is unfortunately is getting divorced and all of his toys must go. He offered the car to me before he gave it back to Mid Sussex. I agree re the pricing of it, and I told him so. He will take a bid if anyone is interested, but under thh circumstances he needs to be seen to not be off loading it at below market rates for obvious reasons.
Just goes to show that some buyers personal circumstances do unfortunately worsen through external issues..This flippper is hereby exonerated of all blame and shall from this day forth be re-classified as a genuine enthusiast.smile
Yeah what a st situation. I know of someone who got very carried away with a 720S Spider when he ordered it....financial situation meant he had to sell. The gob smacking loss made his Mrs so angry that she’s divorcing him.....