87 year old dies in prison 9 days after sentence

[surveyor]

Sentenced to 28 months after killing someone in their car, mistaking accelerator for brake.

Died of a heart attack 9 days after sentence.

Where is the public interest in sending someone like this to prison?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7833247/D...

[mercedeslimos]

Regardless of what happens, I can imagine there will be some guilty feeling people out there that he died on their watch.

[Agammemnon]

surveyor said:

Where is the public interest in sending someone like this to prison?

Prevents him doing the same again, sends a message to similar folks to hang up their car keys, prevents complaints of unequal treatment from families of those killed by younger drivers..........................................

[Teddy Lop]

What's the backstory? Did the guy have a bit of a history but resisted suggestions to stop driving?

[DoubleD]

You cant have different sentencing for different ages.

[grumbledoak]

He ran over two people, killing one of them. What would you suggest?

[Order66]

surveyor said:

Where is the public interest in sending someone like this to prison?

Perhaps reinforcing with the other people who are unfit to drive that age is not an "avoid jail" guarantee when you kill someone. He had already just hit a bollard, and instead of deciding perhaps he wasn't up to it he got back in the car in a "rage" before taking out 2 women and another bollard.

[texaxile]

Price of a life seems so cheap these days.

This we deserved to get longer though. As for those intimidating the grieving family...

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

[aaron_2000]

Sad situation all round, but he killed a woman and ruined the life of another. If he was 20 years younger people would be wishing him dead; at least this time they don't have to.

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

Sometimes, even if someone ends up dead, prison shouldn't be appropriate. At Newark a few years ago an old boy came off the A46 dual, on to the A46 single carriageway flyover. Mistakenly, after 40 odd miles of being on a dual CW he mistook that he was still on one. Overtaking a lorry he had a head on crash, killing his wife of many decades. IIRC he went down for 6 years - what good did prison achieve, he'd already had the worst possible punishment.

[vaud]

surveyor said:

Sentenced to 28 months after killing someone in their car, mistaking accelerator for brake.

Died of a heart attack 9 days after sentence.

Where is the public interest in sending someone like this to prison?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7833247/D...

Aside from the risk that it is Daily Mail reporting, I have no issue with that sentence.

"He was seen in an angry state looking at the damage to the front bumper before getting back into the car and slamming the door shut. He then reversed the automatic vehicle at maximum reverse speed narrowly missing a father who had to pull his children out of harm. He continued reversing until his car struck Ms Newman and Ms Taylor carrying them towards a bollard which stopped the car in its tracks after travelling around 100ft. The impact left Ms Newman unconscious, and she suffered skull, facial and rib fractures as well as a punctured lung and a blood clot on the brain."

[Not-The-Messiah]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Sometimes, even if someone ends up dead, prison shouldn't be appropriate. At Newark a few years ago an old boy came off the A46 dual, on to the A46 single carriageway flyover. Mistakenly, after 40 odd miles of being on a dual CW he mistook that he was still on one. Overtaking a lorry he had a head on crash, killing his wife of many decades. IIRC he went down for 6 years - what good did prison achieve, he'd already had the worst possible punishment.

Like others have said it's a deterrent to others who perhaps shouldn't be still on the roads and know it themselves.

If someone as a few to many pints and thinks of driving home what stops them? is it their morality knowing that it's a risk to others or they think if they get caught they are in st?

[grumbledoak]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

Sometimes, even if someone ends up dead, prison shouldn't be appropriate. At Newark a few years ago an old boy came off the A46 dual, on to the A46 single carriageway flyover. Mistakenly, after 40 odd miles of being on a dual CW he mistook that he was still on one. Overtaking a lorry he had a head on crash, killing his wife of many decades. IIRC he went down for 6 years - what good did prison achieve, he'd already had the worst possible punishment.

That's stupid. You cannot let people off without punishment just because they harmed themselves in the process.

[surveyor]

But what benefit is it to us to put someone in prison who is on there last legs.

A cost to public. B effect on their health.

Assuming that they will play ball there would be better value in using them to talk about how they thought they were fine....Obviously driving again is out.

[DoubleD]

surveyor said:

But what benefit is it to us to put someone in prison who is on there last legs.

Because it sends out a valuable message

[Agammemnon]

surveyor said:

But what benefit is it to us to put someone in prison who is on there last legs.

A cost to public. B effect on their health.

Compare & contrast with "He killed people but he's old so no worries". See the problem?

[vaud]

surveyor said:

But what benefit is it to us to put someone in prison who is on there last legs.

A cost to public. B effect on their health.

Assuming that they will play ball there would be better value in using them to talk about how they thought they were fine....Obviously driving again is out.

Where do you draw the line?

[Cantaloupe]

Oh well, never mind.

[Fundoreen]

People are not national treasures just because they got old. Situations like this they should just get sent to switzerland on a free one way trip to the special facility.

[S1KRR]

One less in the world.


I feel for the victims more.