Army Has New Recruiting Drive - Snowflakes?
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The Army has started a new recruiting drive aimed at people with self-confidence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
skyrover said:
That's Call Of Duty isn't it? The Mad Monk said:
The Army has started a new recruiting drive aimed at people with self-confidence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
Also not having lawyers taking retired soldiers to court for split second decisions taken forty years ago might help in recruitment.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
The Mad Monk said:
The Army has started a new recruiting drive aimed at people with self-confidence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
As if your way is ever going to happen in a taxpayer-funded system.I don't have a problem with it. It's the militaries job to find and exploit the potential of their young recruits, and an army full of Harry Flashmans would be no better.
freakybacon said:
The Mad Monk said:
The Army has started a new recruiting drive aimed at people with self-confidence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
Also not having lawyers taking retired soldiers to court for split second decisions taken forty years ago might help in recruitment.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50966542
I think a fair better way would be to have pay and conditions so good that people would almost fighting to join up.
“Earn a pittance and face potential legal action in the future” is not exactly great marketing.
In my last place I worked at I was invited to present at a recruitment event organised by the local job centre and the army were there. One of the army recruiters came to my stand and we had a chat about how much he hated the army and what would be needed to get a job/career in the area that I was presenting (offshore wind). He'd been in there for years and was earning a pittance!
p4cks said:
In my last place I worked at I was invited to present at a recruitment event organised by the local job centre and the army were there. One of the army recruiters came to my stand and we had a chat about how much he hated the army and what would be needed to get a job/career in the area that I was presenting (offshore wind). He'd been in there for years and was earning a pittance!
If he had been in for ‘years’ then the lowest wage he would have been on would be around 25k, that’s not pittance to a lot of people.If he was an Army recruiter then he would have had some form of rank, that would then mean his pay would range anywhere from 25-40k.
Edited by jaybarts on Thursday 2nd January 11:34
jaybarts said:
If he had been in for ‘years’ then the lowest wage he would have been on would be around 25k, that’s not pittance to a lot of people.
If he was an Army recruiter then he would have had some form of rank, that would then mean his pay would range anywhere from 25-40k.
That’s the average weekly wage on here. Anyone earning less than £1m a year is a card carrying communist and a drain on society. If he was an Army recruiter then he would have had some form of rank, that would then mean his pay would range anywhere from 25-40k.
Edited by jaybarts on Thursday 2nd January 11:34
jaybarts said:
p4cks said:
In my last place I worked at I was invited to present at a recruitment event organised by the local job centre and the army were there. One of the army recruiters came to my stand and we had a chat about how much he hated the army and what would be needed to get a job/career in the area that I was presenting (offshore wind). He'd been in there for years and was earning a pittance!
If he had been in for ‘years’ then the lowest wage he would have been on would be around 25k, that’s not pittance to a lot of people.If he was an Army recruiter then he would have had some form of rank, that would then mean his pay would range anywhere from 25-40k.
p4cks said:
He was nowhere close to the top end of that range, and very much close to the bottom end of that range. I certainly wouldn't want to devote my life to the army, getting shot at and being effectively owned by someone else for sub £30K a year. You can earn more in a call centre by doing a lot, lot less.
You get board, lodging and a gun though, don’t you?Being in the armed forces, a nurse, teacher, civil servant etc are not jobs where you chase big earnings, they are jobs where you give something back to society and get alternative rewards instead.
I've seen a lot of employment surveys where people are asked about motivation for work, and pay is usually quite far down the list.
I agree on the lack of conflict being a turn off for people joining the army. My nephew is in the Royal Artillery and is bored out of his mind most of the time.
I've seen a lot of employment surveys where people are asked about motivation for work, and pay is usually quite far down the list.
I agree on the lack of conflict being a turn off for people joining the army. My nephew is in the Royal Artillery and is bored out of his mind most of the time.
"ARMY. Get shot at for £20k"
I could do their new advertising campaign. I think it's quite catchy.
But seriously, I have no idea why anyone would join the Army unless they had absolutely no other options. I mean fair enough, join at some sort of well-paid management level where you won't be required to travel to a desert somewhere or shoot people, but anything else... No thanks.
I could do their new advertising campaign. I think it's quite catchy.
But seriously, I have no idea why anyone would join the Army unless they had absolutely no other options. I mean fair enough, join at some sort of well-paid management level where you won't be required to travel to a desert somewhere or shoot people, but anything else... No thanks.
I joined the Marines in 2006 when Iraq and Afghanistan was all over the news and there was an intake of c.60 lads every two weeks at CTC. Now I’ve heard it’s less than that every month. Different branch of the MoD but demonstrates how things are.
The base salary is pretty poor to some but there’s a benefits calculator online. With the extra perks (fuel money and non contributory pension mostly) It says I’d have to be earning £19k more to cover those myself. If I sent my son to boarding school I’d get 3/4 of the fees paid and I don’t live in married quarters anymore which would save me £300 a month. You also get paid extra when you go away and the amount depends where you are. Norway is quite regular and I get a grand a month extra when I’m out there for upto 6 months for example.
When in the U.K. I’ve pretty much had every Wednesday and Friday off and we calculated we do 17.5 hours a week that are “work”.
There’s also 7 weeks leave a year which is flexible for Easter and summer leave. Plus I’ve had 11 days off work MTBing this year with my travel and accom paid for. If I didn’t have my own bike I could have arranged a decent one from the gym. Plus I’m crap but still get it signed off.
I had a bit of a wobble a few years back and wanted to leave. Looking at the pro and cons I’m transferring to the RN in January where I can do another 20 years if I want to. If I wasn’t on course I’d have at least a week free skiing but hopefully I’ll be done by the time the MTB season kicks off.
The base salary is pretty poor to some but there’s a benefits calculator online. With the extra perks (fuel money and non contributory pension mostly) It says I’d have to be earning £19k more to cover those myself. If I sent my son to boarding school I’d get 3/4 of the fees paid and I don’t live in married quarters anymore which would save me £300 a month. You also get paid extra when you go away and the amount depends where you are. Norway is quite regular and I get a grand a month extra when I’m out there for upto 6 months for example.
When in the U.K. I’ve pretty much had every Wednesday and Friday off and we calculated we do 17.5 hours a week that are “work”.
There’s also 7 weeks leave a year which is flexible for Easter and summer leave. Plus I’ve had 11 days off work MTBing this year with my travel and accom paid for. If I didn’t have my own bike I could have arranged a decent one from the gym. Plus I’m crap but still get it signed off.
I had a bit of a wobble a few years back and wanted to leave. Looking at the pro and cons I’m transferring to the RN in January where I can do another 20 years if I want to. If I wasn’t on course I’d have at least a week free skiing but hopefully I’ll be done by the time the MTB season kicks off.
Camelot1971 said:
Being in the armed forces, a nurse, teacher, civil servant etc are not jobs where you chase big earnings, they are jobs where you give something back to society and get alternative rewards instead.
I've seen a lot of employment surveys where people are asked about motivation for work, and pay is usually quite far down the list.
I agree on the lack of conflict being a turn off for people joining the army. My nephew is in the Royal Artillery and is bored out of his mind most of the time.
Former soldier, current Civil Servant here, and I endorse this message.I've seen a lot of employment surveys where people are asked about motivation for work, and pay is usually quite far down the list.
I agree on the lack of conflict being a turn off for people joining the army. My nephew is in the Royal Artillery and is bored out of his mind most of the time.
I only left the Army due to being medically discharged and would still be there now if I could, even though I earn a fair bit more for a lot less effort as a Civil Servant.
Very few join the armed forces for the money, it's for all the other stuff that comes with it.
Fair play to trying something a bit different on the advertising front. The snowflakes campaign got slated, mainly by those who weren't the targets anyway, but it worked and got recruiting numbers up. So maybe unusual campaigns are the way forward, although as quick as the army getting them in they are leaving even faster.
The BBC mentioned the army had fallen numbers wise 9 years in a row, mind you rumours they might get a chop in the next sdsr.
The BBC mentioned the army had fallen numbers wise 9 years in a row, mind you rumours they might get a chop in the next sdsr.
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