New Fireblade!
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Grindle

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764 posts

114 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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From what i see it is a case of ''no more Mr. Nice Guy CBR1000RR''.
A straightforward uppercut to the 1000cc class rivals with an amazing engine and power output. Despite giving away 104cc to the Ducati V4 it has similar stomp from start to finish and that's going some. What a motor!
I love the V4 Duck, who doesn't, but the Honda manages 214 bhp without the complexity of the Ducati's engine and shows that a simple inline 4 will always be the best route to high power and small size and least complication and expense.
I'd love one but that would mean several of my bikes dying in the cause.

GYTRDave

143 posts

81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Looks great and should hopefully be the new Blade we expected last time.
I'll go for 189bhp at the wheel on a normal dyno, which is what the last gen lacked imho, shame that this new model doesn't come with a blipper as standard though, dash looks great!

Edited by GYTRDave on Thursday 2nd January 13:12

Grindle

Original Poster:

764 posts

114 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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I just want it! (My new year resolution should be to stop wanting so many bikes, i just like so many of the new ones. Ducati Streetfighter. Honda Fireblade. Latest S1000RR. The 250 2 stroke, forget the name for the minute, that sounds epic. Etc.)

GYTRDave

143 posts

81 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Think the bike would look incredible in just black, evil looking thing.

dibblecorse

7,643 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Brilliant, a new washing machine with an even faster spin cycle .....

WarnieV6GT

1,441 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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It looks great until you sit on it and realise it's going to be a track bike 1st and a road bike 2nd. Then there's the price ..

tedblog

1,442 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Had a sit on it at the show and the rearsets are very high and i found it very uncomfortable, maybe can adjust?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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Grindle said:
I love the V4 Duck, who doesn't, but the Honda manages 214 bhp without the complexity of the Ducati's engine and shows that a simple inline 4 will always be the best route to high power and small size and least complication and expense.
Other than desmo (which seems reliable for many years now) what does the V4 have that the blade doesn't? I'd imagine it's much more likely to break down being short on capacity compared to the Duc.

Rick1.8t

1,463 posts

209 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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WarnieV6GT said:
It looks great until you sit on it and realise it's going to be a track bike 1st and a road bike 2nd. Then there's the price ..
In fairness, what is expected from a 220bhp sports bike? Would there be much point in making it a more comfortable road bike especially when as you say its going to be £20k.

I think we are entering the era where most superbikes are just that, out and out superbikes for track use / occasional road blast for those that can afford it, there are plenty of options out there for bikes that are more road focussed and no doubt Honda will come out with a naked version of this new bike soon to provide people with that.

I would love one but I am nowhere near the position that I could justify / afford one as you can imagine the repair cost if you do take it to the track and make a trip into the gravel but this bike is obviously aimed at people racing, with deeper pockets, those that just like to own something awesome for a trip out on a sunday or people not scared of planting a £20k bike on PCP into the gravel.

dibblecorse

7,643 posts

222 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Rick1.8t said:
WarnieV6GT said:
those that just like to own something awesome for a trip out on a sunday or people not scared of planting a £20k bike on PCP into the gravel.
They are all on Panigales on TriOptions finance, most trackdays are full of them lol

hureciamirl1935

25 posts

83 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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WarnieV6GT said:
It looks great until you sit on it and realise it's going to be a track bike 1st and a road bike 2nd. Then there's the price ..
Think the challenge remains the pricing. Thanks for sharing your view.

Sidecar Man

802 posts

91 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Be riding one 1st week of April smilesmilebeer

Triaguar

928 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Sidecar Man said:
Be riding one 1st week of April smilesmilebeer
Would appreciate your views after a a couple of months. It would be my next Blade but having sat on it at the show those pegs are seriously high, and I have the world's shortest legs, no I mean really short. So found it uncomfortable. Regularly do one two and three week tours on my current Blade. That would be its primary use. So my initial thoughts are it's a track bike first and foremost. Which is what the people on the Honda stand intimated it was built for TT, WSB And BSB. Not particularly for people like me. 2019 SP?

Sidecar Man

802 posts

91 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Triaguar said:
Would appreciate your views after a a couple of months. It would be my next Blade but having sat on it at the show those pegs are seriously high, and I have the world's shortest legs, no I mean really short. So found it uncomfortable. Regularly do one two and three week tours on my current Blade. That would be its primary use. So my initial thoughts are it's a track bike first and foremost. Which is what the people on the Honda stand intimated it was built for the TT, WSB And BSB. Not particularly for people like me. 2019 SP?
I'll be riding it at Donington park so won't really be able to tell you it's touring properties Sorry.

Triaguar

928 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Sidecar Man said:
Triaguar said:
Would appreciate your views after a a couple of months. It would be my next Blade but having sat on it at the show those pegs are seriously high, and I have the world's shortest legs, no I mean really short. So found it uncomfortable. Regularly do one two and three week tours on my current Blade. That would be its primary use. So my initial thoughts are it's a track bike first and foremost. Which is what the people on the Honda stand intimated it was built for the TT, WSB And BSB. Not particularly for people like me. 2019 SP?
I'll be riding it at Donington park so won't really be able to tell you it's touring properties Sorry.
You could always ride it there and back for me !! Thanks for reply.

Sidecar Man

802 posts

91 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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Triaguar said:
Sidecar Man said:
Triaguar said:
Would appreciate your views after a a couple of months. It would be my next Blade but having sat on it at the show those pegs are seriously high, and I have the world's shortest legs, no I mean really short. So found it uncomfortable. Regularly do one two and three week tours on my current Blade. That would be its primary use. So my initial thoughts are it's a track bike first and foremost. Which is what the people on the Honda stand intimated it was built for the TT, WSB And BSB. Not particularly for people like me. 2019 SP?
I'll be riding it at Donington park so won't really be able to tell you it's touring properties Sorry.
You could always ride it there and back for me !! Thanks for reply.
Not my bike unfortunately it's Ron Haslams. biglaugh

Walter Sobchak

5,739 posts

254 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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I’m sure it’s going to be an amazing bike but it’s so expensive,£20k for the base model?!, I very much doubt it’s going to be £4K better than a new S1000RR or R1, you could have the base mode Panigale V4 for less.
As good of a bike as it will be, this isn’t a ‘game changer’ imo, all of the latest super bikes are so good.
If Honda had actually done it and made this an RVF instead of a CBR I’d probably have made the jump though, a modern RC30 would be awesome.

Freakuk

4,851 posts

181 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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dibblecorse said:
Brilliant, a new washing machine with an even faster spin cycle .....
The SP get's the tumble drier option also smile

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

203 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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hureciamirl1935 said:
WarnieV6GT said:
It looks great until you sit on it and realise it's going to be a track bike 1st and a road bike 2nd. Then there's the price ..
Think the challenge remains the pricing. Thanks for sharing your view.
The BMW undercuts it significantly so if out and out performance is the main criteria then the Blade has to be a serious heart over head decision.

trickywoo

14,245 posts

260 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
The BMW undercuts it significantly so if out and out performance is the main criteria then the Blade has to be a serious heart over head decision.
Can’t be too many people who have bought a blade with their heart, apart from maybe the first model.

I’ve always seen it as the sensible boring choice.