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Came across this, and when i showed my hubby he said that its in their nature to do this and they are naturally agressive, but i disagree and i say that its not a bad dog its a bad owner! you need your speakers on!
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/
Please do not let any young children see this as they may get up set!
http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/
Please do not let any young children see this as they may get up set!
I agree with pretty much everything the site says BUT..
I'd have to add that different breeds are bred to emphasise or suppress various different behavioural as well as physical characteristics. Some are 'easier' as household pets than others, and I don't feel that Pitbulls are a good choice for very inexperienced dog-owners.
Dog-fighting is sick though, and everyone involved should be thrown in a pit together, preferably with electrodes on their genitals as extra motivation, and made to fight it out. [ /pacifistmodeoff]
I'd have to add that different breeds are bred to emphasise or suppress various different behavioural as well as physical characteristics. Some are 'easier' as household pets than others, and I don't feel that Pitbulls are a good choice for very inexperienced dog-owners.
Dog-fighting is sick though, and everyone involved should be thrown in a pit together, preferably with electrodes on their genitals as extra motivation, and made to fight it out. [ /pacifistmodeoff]
I was brought up with bull breeds..
Boxers/staffies/.............
They have personalities,they are such fun,and they are affectionate.
they require lots of excerise.............
train them to be nasty or indeed intebreed and u will have problems...
generally they are the most appealing breed
Boxers/staffies/.............
They have personalities,they are such fun,and they are affectionate.
they require lots of excerise.............
train them to be nasty or indeed intebreed and u will have problems...
generally they are the most appealing breed
s. You know, I've never met a bull terrier of any description that wasn't a sweetheart (nor a doberman or rottweiler either for that matter).
But it's right - they need to know their place in the pack. If they think they're boss, you have problems, and those problems are exacerbated by their power and speed. I'd concur, not a dog for a novice owner
Didn't watch the link. If I've guessed right, then I don't have the temperament to deal with that kind of thing
But it's right - they need to know their place in the pack. If they think they're boss, you have problems, and those problems are exacerbated by their power and speed. I'd concur, not a dog for a novice owner
Didn't watch the link. If I've guessed right, then I don't have the temperament to deal with that kind of thing
rude girl said:
Didn't watch the link. If I've guessed right, then I don't have the temperament to deal with that kind of thing
I did! and wish I hadn't
Sickening A guy I do some work with (he's a P'Her) has got an English Bull Terrier that he rescued from kennels where it was earmarked for destruction - It had been badly treated and trained to be nasty and allegedly ragged its owner
My mate/colleague/assosciate was in the kennels on another matter and spotted the dog in a segregation wing and in conversation it came up that the dog was going to be destroyed IIRC the following day as the Kennels owner who was a dog trainer couldn't do anything with it and the staff were terrified of it.
To cut to the chase, my colleague, spent 15-20 mins talking to the dog and making friends with it and feeding it Twix bars through the kennel bars and asked the Kennel owner if he could go in - apparently the kennel owner refused initially saying that he could not be responsible for or garauntee his safety if he opened the door
My colleague struck a deal with the guy at the kennels that if he could open the door and get the dog on a lead and have it under control within 15 mins he would take it home with him there and then which after some persuasion the kennels owner agreed.
He walked in and had it on a lead within minutes and walked out of the kennel block, around the car park 3 times and put it in the back of his car and drove away.
5 years later, he has still got the dog which is loyal, affectionate and well behaved
>> Edited by pagey on Thursday 9th June 00:50
Good for your friend. I think personality in dogs is like in people: a combination of genes and environment. Some dogs are naturally more agressive than others, some more neurotic and clingy. I think for the most part, you can train any animal to be fairly nice, but like people, there's no amount of training that will take away a certain edge they may have been born with. A lot of people don't understand the pack mentality of dogs, and dangers occur when they don't realize/establish the pack order, or disturb it without reassuring the dog (such as bringing in a new baby). People should have to read up on raising dogs before getting one. Or children, for that matter.
Raising animals to kill each other for sport is gross.
Raising animals to kill each other for sport is gross.
jessica said:
I was brought up with bull breeds..
Boxers/staffies/.............
They have personalities,they are such fun,and they are affectionate.
they require lots of excerise.............
train them to be nasty or indeed intebreed and u will have problems...
generally they are the most appealing breed
Absolutely, I have two staffies, would never have another breed of dog... loyal, funny, intelligent, huge characters.
Like to add that I've come across lots of nasty dogs, but I've never, ever met a staff or a pitbull that has been anything other than totally lovable. It's such a shame that they can fall into the wrong hands... whats even more terrifying is that quite often the dogs are stolen from gardens or parks
I haven’t looked at the link as I don’t want to see what I think it is. I hate this sort of thing with all my heart. Dogs fight from time to time, it’s nature, but making them do it is wrong.
As for the behaviour of dogs I have to say that they are like humans, or indeed any other animal, 99.99% are what you make them. Their innate personality will be tempered by how you treat them, their surroundings, diet, etc. But there will always by, from time to time, the odd ‘wrong ‘un’.
My folks have always had dogs, mainly French Bulldogs but latterly King Charles Spaniels. A number of years ago they had a Frenchie, Nick, who was great most of the time but almost once a month he would turn. No reason, not even linked to food, he’d just decide he was going to have you. We tried everything but after nearly a year during which everyone in the family and a few friends had sacrificed a little of their skin we had to bite the bullet. Not only that but my brother had a young toddler and a new born, we also had a KSP and Nick had already seriously injured a dalnation(!)(sp) and we just couldn’t tale the risk.
We couldn’t bear the thought of sending him to a home because we could never have lived with the thought that any new owner might abuse or mistreat him and sadly had to put him to sleep.
RIP Nick
As for the behaviour of dogs I have to say that they are like humans, or indeed any other animal, 99.99% are what you make them. Their innate personality will be tempered by how you treat them, their surroundings, diet, etc. But there will always by, from time to time, the odd ‘wrong ‘un’.
My folks have always had dogs, mainly French Bulldogs but latterly King Charles Spaniels. A number of years ago they had a Frenchie, Nick, who was great most of the time but almost once a month he would turn. No reason, not even linked to food, he’d just decide he was going to have you. We tried everything but after nearly a year during which everyone in the family and a few friends had sacrificed a little of their skin we had to bite the bullet. Not only that but my brother had a young toddler and a new born, we also had a KSP and Nick had already seriously injured a dalnation(!)(sp) and we just couldn’t tale the risk.
We couldn’t bear the thought of sending him to a home because we could never have lived with the thought that any new owner might abuse or mistreat him and sadly had to put him to sleep.
RIP Nick
i'd cheerfully take a bat to anyone doing this to any animal. dispicable f****rs.
ive had a staffordshire terrier for about 5 years, called tolly (after my fave pub!). we got him from the RSPCA who had grabbed him from his former owner, a scumbag from ramsgate who used to beat the s**t out of tolly as and when he felt like it.
the RSPCA were called and took the dog away from said scumbag and fixed his broken leg and ciggarette burns etc and presented the owner with a huge bill, which he refused to pay. apparently the RSPCA new he would refuse and this is how they get the dogs away from people who shouldn't own animals.
anyway, long story short, i have never met a more timid, affectionate and loyal animal as tolly, he doesnt have a bit in him and we have only heard him bark a handful of times... my girlfriend is terrified of dogs, her dad was attaked as a young boy, by a bull-terrier of some kind. but she adores tolly...
bad owners = bad dogs.....
woof
ive had a staffordshire terrier for about 5 years, called tolly (after my fave pub!). we got him from the RSPCA who had grabbed him from his former owner, a scumbag from ramsgate who used to beat the s**t out of tolly as and when he felt like it.
the RSPCA were called and took the dog away from said scumbag and fixed his broken leg and ciggarette burns etc and presented the owner with a huge bill, which he refused to pay. apparently the RSPCA new he would refuse and this is how they get the dogs away from people who shouldn't own animals.
anyway, long story short, i have never met a more timid, affectionate and loyal animal as tolly, he doesnt have a bit in him and we have only heard him bark a handful of times... my girlfriend is terrified of dogs, her dad was attaked as a young boy, by a bull-terrier of some kind. but she adores tolly...
bad owners = bad dogs.....
woof
Antwerpman said:
I used to have a staffie (unfortunately died) and he was the best dog ever.
As I recall staffies are one of only two breeds (dont know the other) that the Kennel club identifies as suitable with children
You know why? Cos they are so tollerant, seriously. I've bloody stood on butch in the dark before while he was asleep... no yelp, no growl... just a faint 'oof' sound.
You give me another breed that wouldn't turn and sink its teeth into your leg.
cocker spaniels are great with the bin-lids totally 
& bounces off the walls at random
however, i feel you should be careful with 'any' breed of dog with kids. Prob. got something to do with the cross-breeding/blood-lines thats been bred in over the years. Some breeds are renowed for their 'streaks'.
& bounces off the walls at random however, i feel you should be careful with 'any' breed of dog with kids. Prob. got something to do with the cross-breeding/blood-lines thats been bred in over the years. Some breeds are renowed for their 'streaks'.
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