A genuinely quick-release tail bag or..? (Commuting content)
A genuinely quick-release tail bag or..? (Commuting content)
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MajorMantra

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1,714 posts

142 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Thanks to a dodgy shoulder I'm finding commuting with a rucksack 26 miles each way a bit miserable.

My bike is a 2009 Street Triple R so not really meant for racks and hard luggage, but I'm thinking a tail bag could be a good option.

Can anyone suggest a good tail bag that's very quick to mount/remove? (So I can carry it from the car park to the office.) It needs to be big enough to hold a 13in laptop, locks and assorted odds and ends.

OR...

Can anyone suggest one that mounts more permanently but which is quick to open and close and could swallow a small rucksack containing my work things.

I never use the pillion seat so I'm not bothered about a bag taking up room behind me.

I am looking at potentially switching to a comfier, more upright bike that's designed for luggage in the long run, but I want to explore alternatives first.

Cheers!

jjones

4,492 posts

223 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Kriega us30 might suit, waterproof and rugged and pretty quick to put on / off the bike . If running without the bag you need to secure the straps that would be left on the bike.

A500leroy

8,563 posts

148 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxford-OL147-X30-Tail-Bag...


Here you go, theres also a 40l version if you need bigger.

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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My Ventura tailpack only has two clips to attach it to the rack

https://www.ventura-bike.co.uk/bike-packs/aero-del...

They've updated the design but the main features are the same

MajorMantra

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1,714 posts

142 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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I'm looking the look of the Kriega US20...

I can see there's a neat fitting kit for the newer 765 Street Triple, but not my bike, but you can buy the extra clips to keep things tidy if you're riding without the bag. Does that sound right?

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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You can indeed get short clips to keep it tidy without the bag. I ran Kriega US20s and US30s for some years commuting and they are very handy. They can occasionally be awkward to keep tight if you have a funny shaped load in the bag, but in general, they're excellent.

I'm now on a 765RS and use the same system. The good news is, as someone said, you don't need the tidy straps with the 765 loops, and you can set the older bike up with just loops too.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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You can just about see the straps on my old Street under the pillion cover here...

MajorMantra

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1,714 posts

142 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Thanks!

Are you saying the 765 kit fits the 675 too? Did you need to modify anything?

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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No the two are not interchangeable, I'm afraid.

For the old model street, there are/were two flavours of straps directly related to the age of your Kriega packs! One set had clips on and needed tidying straps, and one set had loops - the loops being the more modern variety that now are the standard. You can see the modern loops on mine here.

The loop fitting length between the old 675 and new 765 models is mildly different, based on the slightly different positioning of bolts and seats, etc.. Don't get the wrong ones, as it will be a right pain!

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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That's the same as on the 765, but I think the OP had the 675 with the all in one seat. Slightly different set up, but along the same lines

smack

9,776 posts

221 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Pothole said:
My Ventura tailpack only has two clips to attach it to the rack

https://www.ventura-bike.co.uk/bike-packs/aero-del...

They've updated the design but the main features are the same
I had 2 Ventura bags, used for holidays then daily commuting. They didn't really hold up and gave up the ghost after a few years, with the zips going and the weatherproofing giving up. As they are not fully waterproof so only showerproof, a cover is needed to keep out heavy rain, but with the plastic coating on the inside of the nylon going, I had to resort to putting things in plastic bags to have any chance of keeping things dry.

My Kriega tailpacks (I have a few of each US-10/20/30's, with the 20's and 30's getting used the most) with I don't know how many 10's of thousands on miles of use are all still going strong.

MajorMantra

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1,714 posts

142 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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morebeanz said:
That's the same as on the 765, but I think the OP had the 675 with the all in one seat. Slightly different set up, but along the same lines
Yes, that's right, mine's the original style Street, which I gather means I would simply be using the standard sub-frame loops that come with the bag, if I'm understanding this correctly.

Thanks for all the input from all of you, really appreciated!

MajorMantra

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1,714 posts

142 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Should be, it looks like this:



(And yes, it's filthy. Don't judge me, the weather has been absolutely atrocious and my last commute was in monsoon rain.)

podman

9,085 posts

270 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Whilst im not in a similar position regards the commute, I do want to add luggage to my S1000R so ive just bought a new, chinese jobbie pillion seat off eBay for £30 (which includes a lock and fits perfectly) , my plan is to mount my top box mounting plate to the pillion seat and then I can mount the box to the bike ...unclips in seconds...ive seen this done on a Blade in the past and elsewhere on PH I think..im sure it will end up being a cheaper and secure alternative to a tail bag.

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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I've seen that done on the new Street too.

The thing to watch for is some of the Kriega loops attach to the subframe, which is always going to be more secure than attaching to the seat. The seat will rely on the integrity of the lock...

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Got one of these on the Tiger having given up on Kriega stuff.
I found Kriega is very waterproof and great once lashed to the bike but it relies on the contents filling it sufficiently to give it form (couple of times I ended up with odd shape lumps tied to the bike) and once on its impossible to access.
The SW Motech bag is stiffer so it holds its shape, and holds loads. Pretty sure you’d get a whole backpack in there as one item.
I’ve attached it to the frame under the seat using the supplied straps but have added some Berghaus-style buckles (off eBay) in the straps to enable rapid attachment/removal. Can be fitted either on the pillion seat or to a rack. Bit less bulky than a full on top box.


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 12th January 18:21


Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 12th January 18:36

Birky_41

4,650 posts

214 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
Got one of these on the Tiger having given up on Kriega stuff.
I found Kriega is very waterproof and great once lashed to the bike but it relies on the contents filling it sufficiently to give it form (couple of times I ended up with odd shape lumps tied to the bike) and once on its impossible to access.
The SW Motech bag is stiffer so it holds its shape, and holds loads. Pretty sure you’d get a whole backpack in there as one item.
I’ve attached it to the frame under the seat using the supplied straps but have added some Berghaus-style buckles (off eBay) in the straps to enable rapid attachment/removal. Can be fitted either on the pillion seat or to a rack. Bit less bulky than a full on top box.


Edited by Crossflow Kid on Sunday 12th January 18:21


Edited by Crossflow Kid on Sunday 12th January 18:36
I've got a US20 kriegga fitted exactly like toxicnerve has his

I agree with the above though. I can get to mine fine but it does need filling out really. If it isn't and you pull all the straps down it can be as above. As mines the smaller 20 for me it's fine for a weekend away though

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Don’t get me wrong, Kriega stuff is very good. I still use it on longer trips when I pack it with overnight stuff (tent etc) that definitely won’t be needed during the day and has to be absolutely 100% dry.

darkyoung1000

2,487 posts

226 months

Sunday 12th January 2020
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Photo of the protruding loops on my wife’s 2010 STR. They’re just attached to the standard frame rather than being bespoke for the bike. Let me know if you want an under the seat shot too.
We picked up our Kreiga 2nd hand from eBay so that might be worth a look.

MajorMantra

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1,714 posts

142 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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I'm negotiating on a second hand Kriega but still open to other options...

I take the point about the SW Motech bag above. I think it might be overkill for my needs though, and I'd prefer something that is itself fully waterproof.

I see SW Motech also does 'drybag' style tail bags (and they're not that expensive). I'm guessing these may be very similar to the Kriegas in that they need filling out?

E.g.: https://sw-motech.com/en/products/luggage/tail+bag...