63 years for 10 drug dealers.
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Alucidnation

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16,810 posts

194 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Well done Dorset and Merseyside police for getting these scum off the streets.

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https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18156759.ro...

hotchy

4,796 posts

150 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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So 6.3 each, out in 3. Possibly 2 if they are lucky.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

127 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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hotchy said:
So 6.3 each, out in 3. Possibly 2 if they are lucky.
This
Barely a punishment
They will continue to deal in jail and will
Have money hidden

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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johnwilliams77 said:
hotchy said:
So 6.3 each, out in 3. Possibly 2 if they are lucky.
This
Barely a punishment
They will continue to deal in jail and will
Have money hidden
Not really 'this' given they didn't receive equal sentences.



Agammemnon

1,628 posts

82 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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johnwilliams77 said:
This
Barely a punishment
They will continue to deal in jail and will
Have money hidden
This doesn't really work as a haiku.

R1 Dave

7,158 posts

287 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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hotchy said:
So 6.3 each, out in 3. Possibly 2 if they are lucky.
On average. They weren't all sentenced the same though, sentences ranged up to 10 years.

This would have been a very complex and time consuming investigation and is a great job IMHO.

Captain Smerc

3,281 posts

140 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Agammemnon said:
johnwilliams77 said:
This
Barely a punishment
They will continue to deal in jail and will
Have money hidden
This doesn't really work as a haiku.
laughlaugh

Tycho

12,149 posts

297 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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R1 Dave said:
hotchy said:
So 6.3 each, out in 3. Possibly 2 if they are lucky.
On average. They weren't all sentenced the same though, sentences ranged up to 10 years.

This would have been a very complex and time consuming investigation and is a great job IMHO.
While true, it should have been 63 years each for all the misery they have caused. Great job by the police.

Jag_NE

3,314 posts

124 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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They look like a right bunch of scruffs. Bottom of the food chain dealers who will be replaced tomorrow. There will be plenty more drugs, the only impact is a hit in the pocket for the more senior dealers. I’m not convinced the effort and expense of the policing is worth the reward, time to legalise and regulate it or seriously start throwing the book at people for dealing class A’s. The present situation is an expensive farce, drugs are everywhere.

Blue Oval84

5,375 posts

185 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Jag_NE said:
They look like a right bunch of scruffs. Bottom of the food chain dealers who will be replaced tomorrow. There will be plenty more drugs, the only impact is a hit in the pocket for the more senior dealers. I’m not convinced the effort and expense of the policing is worth the reward, time to legalise and regulate it or seriously start throwing the book at people for dealing class A’s. The present situation is an expensive farce, drugs are everywhere.
You mean take an evidence based approach to dealing with the situation? That'll never fly.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

127 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Jag_NE said:
They look like a right bunch of scruffs. Bottom of the food chain dealers who will be replaced tomorrow. There will be plenty more drugs, the only impact is a hit in the pocket for the more senior dealers. I’m not convinced the effort and expense of the policing is worth the reward, time to legalise and regulate it or seriously start throwing the book at people for dealing class A’s. The present situation is an expensive farce, drugs are everywhere.
This, absolutely. There was a very good recent podcast about the cartels in mexico discussing this exact thing basically saying the war on drugs is a complete waste of time but everyone is benefiting!

poo at Paul's

14,558 posts

199 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Just seems unfeasible that Carl Norton, bottom right, is anything to do with drugs.........….!!

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johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

127 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
Just seems unfeasible that Carl Norton, bottom right, is anything to do with drugs.........….!!

laughlaughlaugh
Agree! Must have the wrong man. He is the epitome of the eloquent gent hehe

Jag_NE

3,314 posts

124 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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johnwilliams77 said:
Jag_NE said:
They look like a right bunch of scruffs. Bottom of the food chain dealers who will be replaced tomorrow. There will be plenty more drugs, the only impact is a hit in the pocket for the more senior dealers. I’m not convinced the effort and expense of the policing is worth the reward, time to legalise and regulate it or seriously start throwing the book at people for dealing class A’s. The present situation is an expensive farce, drugs are everywhere.
This, absolutely. There was a very good recent podcast about the cartels in mexico discussing this exact thing basically saying the war on drugs is a complete waste of time but everyone is benefiting!
Sounds logical. The amount of jobs and businesses directly and indirectly connected with the war on drugs must be staggering. Accessibility will create some new issues if it’s legalised but the money gained from tax and saved by ending the “war” will be better spent helping individuals instead of fighting a perpetually respawning army of dealers.

Donbot

4,194 posts

151 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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West Howe drug users don't need to worry. The normal supply of drugs probably resumed within an hour of their arrest.

Alucidnation

Original Poster:

16,810 posts

194 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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You could be correct, although after spending a considerable amount of time on this particular case, I doubt the local police have just tidied up the box file and thought 'job done'.

R1 Dave

7,158 posts

287 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Jag_NE said:
They look like a right bunch of scruffs. Bottom of the food chain dealers who will be replaced tomorrow. There will be plenty more drugs, the only impact is a hit in the pocket for the more senior dealers. I’m not convinced the effort and expense of the policing is worth the reward, time to legalise and regulate it or seriously start throwing the book at people for dealing class A’s. The present situation is an expensive farce, drugs are everywhere.
Bottom of the food chain dealers don't get 10 years. They appear to have captured a large proportion of the food chain in this investigation, from the runner(s) right up to a decent level.

In relation to the whole legalise / decriminalise debate I think there's an argument to be had for some of the lower level drugs like cannabis but having spent many years investigating County Lines drug gangs exactly like the one in the article and spending a lot of time with crack/heroin users there's no way I'd want my kids to be able to walk into a shop and pick up a 10 bag of smack thanks!

Jag_NE

3,314 posts

124 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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R1 Dave said:
Jag_NE said:
They look like a right bunch of scruffs. Bottom of the food chain dealers who will be replaced tomorrow. There will be plenty more drugs, the only impact is a hit in the pocket for the more senior dealers. I’m not convinced the effort and expense of the policing is worth the reward, time to legalise and regulate it or seriously start throwing the book at people for dealing class A’s. The present situation is an expensive farce, drugs are everywhere.
Bottom of the food chain dealers don't get 10 years. They appear to have captured a large proportion of the food chain in this investigation, from the runner(s) right up to a decent level.

In relation to the whole legalise / decriminalise debate I think there's an argument to be had for some of the lower level drugs like cannabis but having spent many years investigating County Lines drug gangs exactly like the one in the article and spending a lot of time with crack/heroin users there's no way I'd want my kids to be able to walk into a shop and pick up a 10 bag of smack thanks!
If your kids really fancy a tenner bag, they will be able to get it whether it’s legal or not.

Brads67

3,199 posts

122 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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People want drugs.

It's a joke that the people that provide them get jail whilst top of the tree live a high life on Instagram.

amusingduck

9,649 posts

160 months

Tuesday 14th January 2020
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R1 Dave said:
In relation to the whole legalise / decriminalise debate I think there's an argument to be had for some of the lower level drugs like cannabis but having spent many years investigating County Lines drug gangs exactly like the one in the article and spending a lot of time with crack/heroin users there's no way I'd want my kids to be able to walk into a shop and pick up a 10 bag of smack thanks!
Why? I highly doubt the sole reason they're not using heroin is because it's not available at the corner shop. If they want it, they can get it. Right now.

It should be treated as a healthcare issue.