Trinary Switch connector
Discussion
My trinary switch has failed. I think self-inflicted.
It seems that replacement switches come with the wrong connectors. I guess when mine was last replaced, to overcome this the wires from the old one were soldered onto the new ones. Earlier this year I discovered a wire had fallen off, I re-soldered it and all was well. Recently another fell off and on soldering this another broke. After re-soldering them all on the switch stopped working! I suspect because of my poor soldering technique, I applied to much heat and have damaged the switch.
When replacing this switch there must be a better way. As I don’t want to interfere with the cars wiring (there is not much spare wire on the loom) the obvious proposal is make up a small adaptor cable from the connector on the new trinary switch to the cars connector. The switch connectors are 2 x 2 pin and I have identified these. The car wiring is a 6 pin 2 row connector (using 4 pins) it is this connector I cannot identify. Photo below.
Has anyone else had this issue with the wrong trinary switch wiring connector and how have they overcome it? If anyone can help with the identification of the 6 pin connector and where I can buy this it would be most appreciated.
It seems that replacement switches come with the wrong connectors. I guess when mine was last replaced, to overcome this the wires from the old one were soldered onto the new ones. Earlier this year I discovered a wire had fallen off, I re-soldered it and all was well. Recently another fell off and on soldering this another broke. After re-soldering them all on the switch stopped working! I suspect because of my poor soldering technique, I applied to much heat and have damaged the switch.
When replacing this switch there must be a better way. As I don’t want to interfere with the cars wiring (there is not much spare wire on the loom) the obvious proposal is make up a small adaptor cable from the connector on the new trinary switch to the cars connector. The switch connectors are 2 x 2 pin and I have identified these. The car wiring is a 6 pin 2 row connector (using 4 pins) it is this connector I cannot identify. Photo below.
Has anyone else had this issue with the wrong trinary switch wiring connector and how have they overcome it? If anyone can help with the identification of the 6 pin connector and where I can buy this it would be most appreciated.
Hi - yes, I have had the same issue on the Sag. As an aside, the sympom of failure was one of the fans staying on all the time and sometimes even with the ignition off (!).
My local air con / car electrics specialist (luckily he does both) basically spliced on the original connector to the new switch and neatly heat shrink wrapped the splice. It's not given any bother since.
My local air con / car electrics specialist (luckily he does both) basically spliced on the original connector to the new switch and neatly heat shrink wrapped the splice. It's not given any bother since.
s3dave said:
As I don’t want to interfere with the cars wiring (there is not much spare wire on the loom) the obvious proposal is make up a small adaptor cable from the connector on the new trinary switch to the cars connector
Good minds often don't think alikeIs it not worthwhile to cut the 4 cables in the loom at different lengths, lets go for 4 centimeter intervals to gain good staggered joints?
Solder on new cables of a decent length and use adhesive type heat-shrink that will give a good sealed joint
Now buy several 4 way male/female mouldings and pins to make the connections plus have spares in stock
On the other hand, some of these may fit but......
https://thebonnevilleshop.com/triumph-t140-bonnevi...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-TE-Tyco-1-to-15...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molex-2-To-24-Pin-Way-4...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molex-2-to-24-Pin-Way-4...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Molex-Connector-6-Pin-C...
https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
Three quarters of the way down page see - https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Electrical/Wiring/...
Food for thought
The round parts of the mouldings can't be made square but that doesn't matter as round will fit into square
The square parts of the mouldings can be cut or filed to a round shape so that they will fit into round
Something like that if you get where I'm coming from
https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
Three quarters of the way down page see - https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Electrical/Wiring/...
Food for thought
The round parts of the mouldings can't be made square but that doesn't matter as round will fit into square
The square parts of the mouldings can be cut or filed to a round shape so that they will fit into round
Something like that if you get where I'm coming from
Edited by Penelope Stopit on Wednesday 15th January 22:00
Penelope Stopit said:
https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
Three quarters of the way down page see - https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Electrical/Wiring/...
Thanks. The splicing idea is one option but I wanted a bit more finesse; while some may say I am sad, I spend quite a lot of time cleaning the engine bay (thanks to Clive F, the previous owner, it is the tidiest engine bay I have ever seen!). I like the idea of having a bit of triumph bonneville in the car, but i am not sure it would fit the wiring loom connector. I think your links to www.gsparkplug is a great help. The connector certainly looks similar. I looked on eBay before but think they are all different. I will order one from gsparkplug and see if it fits.https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
Three quarters of the way down page see - https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Electrical/Wiring/...
Garry F . Thanks. While the fan does not come on with the ignition it may explain why the car is running cold on motorways. I will check. ( see my post in TVRCC)
Garry F . Thanks. While the fan does not come on with the ignition it may explain why the car is running cold on motorways. I will check. ( see my post in TVRCC)
OP - failure of the trinary switch is indeed indicated by (driver's side) radiator fan coming on with ignition 'ON'.
I'd recommend calling Powers Performance or Str8Six and ask how they resolve the issue of the trinary connector being incompatible with the loom plug. Can't believe they haven't come across this issue recently?
Nick
OP - failure of the trinary switch is indeed indicated by (driver's side) radiator fan coming on with ignition 'ON'.
I'd recommend calling Powers Performance or Str8Six and ask how they resolve the issue of the trinary connector being incompatible with the loom plug. Can't believe they haven't come across this issue recently?
Nick
s3dave said:
Penelope Stopit said:
https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
Three quarters of the way down page see - https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Electrical/Wiring/...
Thanks. The splicing idea is one option but I wanted a bit more finesse; while some may say I am sad, I spend quite a lot of time cleaning the engine bay (thanks to Clive F, the previous owner, it is the tidiest engine bay I have ever seen!). I like the idea of having a bit of triumph bonneville in the car, but i am not sure it would fit the wiring loom connector. I think your links to www.gsparkplug is a great help. The connector certainly looks similar. I looked on eBay before but think they are all different. I will order one from gsparkplug and see if it fits.https://www.gsparkplug.com/durite-connector-mate-n...
Three quarters of the way down page see - https://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Electrical/Wiring/...
Garry F . Thanks. While the fan does not come on with the ignition it may explain why the car is running cold on motorways. I will check. ( see my post in TVRCC)
GaryF said:
Here's a pic of my spliced trinary. I trust it will not offend :-
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Thanks for photo. Must say I could live with that - good job. But you have to do that every time you change the switch! Mine has already been changed at least once, so if i’m Lucky (at best) I suppose I may have 7 years before I have to do it again Monsterous carbuncle? Only you can decide
I don't know how the connections are done under the shink wrap as it was a car electrics chap that spliced it for me whilst he evacuated the air con system.
I would have had a go myself but I think I'd have ended up with a rather more bulky end result. Main thing is it works and has been reliable since and I'm happy
I would have had a go myself but I think I'd have ended up with a rather more bulky end result. Main thing is it works and has been reliable since and I'm happy
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