Insecure browser wanted
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WinstonWolf

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72,863 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Support for older TLS protocols has now been pretty much dumped but I occasionally need to manage old kit that doesn't support the newer protocols. Does anyone know of a browser that has a "fk it I don't care" mode that'll allow me to connect to the old kit?

It'll only ever be used to manage old printers etc. on internal networks, security isn't an issue.

Zoon

7,305 posts

152 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Can you setup a VM with winxp or something and bung an old browser on there?

WinstonWolf

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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I'd rather avoid that if I can as it's a bit of a palaver and I'd need to replicate it across multiple sites. A typical example would be an old Canon scanner when the address book needs updating.

TameRacingDriver

20,611 posts

303 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Internet Explorer surely can’t be secure these days

WinstonWolf

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72,863 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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It's secure enough to prevent me maintaining this old kit hehe

eybic

9,212 posts

205 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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I've seen warnings on chrome about insecure sites but there is a "continue anyway" option, might not be insecure enough for you though???

deggles

726 posts

233 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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It's harder than you think in today's auto-self-updating world frown

I've had some success downloading older versions of Chromium (basically Chrome, without the Google proprietary stuff). I'm not sure how far back you'd have to go for TLS 1 support though.

https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download...

jeremyc

28,279 posts

315 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Directory of old Firefox releases

Back to 0.10 (we're now on 72.0.1 hehe).

I suspect you can find one that is insecure in that lot somewhere. smile

AmosMoses

4,064 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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I used portable versions of old Firefox releases, there's a few links on the web for these.

WinstonWolf

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72,863 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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eybic said:
I've seen warnings on chrome about insecure sites but there is a "continue anyway" option, might not be insecure enough for you though???
They've switched it off in the latest version frown

WinstonWolf

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72,863 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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jeremyc said:
Directory of old Firefox releases

Back to 0.10 (we're now on 72.0.1 hehe).

I suspect you can find one that is insecure in that lot somewhere. smile
I went back to V55, I probably need to go back a lot further hehe

Corso Marche

1,906 posts

232 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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You'll probably be able to install a second instance of IE and get away with it, V8 or V9 for example, without upsetting the existing IE installation or any other installed browsers.

rfisher

5,066 posts

314 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Blackberry Playbook has non TLS browsers a plenty.

Best one is Origami.

I still use it for browsing.

I also have several never used 64Gb Playbooks which I'm planning on selling to the British Museum in 100 years (not personally, obviously).

bmwmike

8,781 posts

139 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Can you stick a reverse proxy in front of the whatever it is and beef up the TLS that way?

Or perhaps some of the current browsers have command line switches / config to allow specific ciphers.

TameRacingDriver

20,611 posts

303 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Try and find a copy of Netscape navigator for some retro goodness

SBDJ

1,335 posts

235 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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As above, I used a portable version of Firefox for this - some networking kit is rubbish for this. Kept two instances - a v24 and a current version - for this purpose.

v55 is far too recent!

mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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I believe you enable the deprecated TLS options in about:config in the latest Firefox.

Mr Pointy

13,424 posts

190 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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mmm-five said:
I believe you enable the deprecated TLS options in about:config in the latest Firefox.
I've just had a look in about:config & there are a couple of switches to try:

security.tls.version.enable-deprecated (currently set to false)
security.tls.version.min (currently set to 1)

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/110189...

Might be worth playing with OP.

WinstonWolf

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72,863 posts

270 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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Thanks folks, FF v22 allowed me to press a "fk it, I know what I'm doing" button and proceed thumbup

SBDJ

1,335 posts

235 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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smile

IMHO it's a better solution than having a more modern browser and turning down the TLS/SSL settings, then forgetting you've done that...