Is my beautiful BMW dead
Is my beautiful BMW dead
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caz_manc

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525 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Bought a beautiful BMW 1 Series convertible last year.

2 days ago the fuel pump disintegrated and I have been told there is metal throughout the fuel system. The very basic information the garage has told me is that it needs cleaning, the engine taken out to change the fuel pump and also injectors to be changed.

I chd Jed and the engine does not need to be taken out to change the fuel pump.

Currently the garage is not giving me a price and saying that they they don't have time to do the work.

Is my car dead or how do I get to get a second opinion when the car can't move and is stuck at the garage.

Really could do with the PistonHeads possy giving me some help here thanks very much

Escy

4,130 posts

179 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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The garage definitely doesn't want to take the job on.

stevemcs

10,357 posts

123 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Search this forum, someone else had the same problem. It’s not a cheap fix.

DuraAce

4,272 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Escy said:
The garage definitely doesn't want to take the job on.
Simple as that. They don't want the job (or aren't convinced they are even capable of it)

Get it out of there before you end up with a striped down car and a big bill!

I guess you aren't capable of doing any DIY work on it?

Find another garage/specialist who will do the job.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

291 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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It's clearly a pita job that the garage view as more hassle than it's worth for them. They will take ages cleaning out the fuel system, and the potential for then to miss a bit and you come back with "you didn't do your job properly and now I'm claiming for a new engine..." is massive.


Olas

911 posts

87 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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In theory nothing got past the filter, so ou only need to replace components between the pump and filter. Look for a car on eBay being broken for parts and take what you need from there, and instead of using an original pump use a Bosch 044.
If you cut the filter open to find the media has been compromised then there could be metal in the rail & injectors.

First port of diagnostic call is to remove, open and inspect the filter to determine how to approach the next step.

Earthdweller

19,593 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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If you’re in Manchester then it’s worth having a word with Mike @ the Zed Shed nr St Helens or Darren Wood in Stockport

See if they can help

caz_manc

Original Poster:

525 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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So helpful thank you so much.

Anyone know of any specialist in Manchester?

caz_manc

Original Poster:

525 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Earthdweller said:
If you’re in Manchester then it’s worth having a word with Mike @ the Zed Shed nr St Helens or Darren Wood in Stockport

See if they can help
Perfect, will call Darren Wood

Kev_Mk3

3,676 posts

125 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Specialist I have use and still use for my other cars is BMW Wirral. Great honest service

caz_manc

Original Poster:

525 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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All suggestions look great, thank you everyone.

Stockport is nearest, Wirral and St. Helens could be expensive on a low loader. I am in south Manchester.

helix402

7,913 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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The previous thread on this subject explains exactly how to fix the problem in-depth.

Olas

911 posts

87 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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have you inspected the filter yet? what did you see? this will tell you what you need to know, and so what you need to buy.

Sheepshanks

41,228 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Olas said:
have you inspected the filter yet? what did you see? this will tell you what you need to know, and so what you need to buy.
I wouldn't expect there to be filter after the high pressure pump. Unless you mean that re-circulated fuel could leave debris in the filter.


OP - How old is the car? I've seen suggestions BMW in the US extended the fuel pump warranty to 10 years.

sunbeam alpine

7,249 posts

218 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Here are a couple of recent threads on the subject.

My experience of this has always been negative, but I've only recovered the cars, not repaired them. smile

Good luck!

Touring442

3,096 posts

239 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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The job should cost about £1000-1500.

Reconditioned HPFP, or a used one after making sure the cam isn't knackered on the replacement. Four used injectors. Used rail and sensors. Blow the fuel lines through with carb/brake cleaner and compressed air. New filter and replace/clean the lift pump - the good money is on replacing it. The tank stays in but is drained and a magnet swept across the base (inside) to get the filings and then cleaned and dried inside. It's best to replace the filter after 500 miles.

Edited by Touring442 on Saturday 25th January 16:51

Touring442

3,096 posts

239 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Olas said:
In theory nothing got past the filter, so ou only need to replace components between the pump and filter.
Not that simple - the next port of call after the pump is the fuel rail and the injectors.

sunbeam alpine

7,249 posts

218 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Touring442 said:
The job should cost about £1000-1500.

Reconditioned HPFP, or a used one after making sure the cam isn't knackered on the replacement. Four used injectors. Used rail and sensors. Blow the fuel lines through with carb/brake cleaner and compressed air. New filter and replace/clean the lift pump - the good money is on replacing it. The tank stays in but is drained and a magnet swept across the base (inside) to get the filings and then cleaned and dried inside. It's best to replace the filter after 500 miles.

Edited by Touring442 on Saturday 25th January 16:51
Is that a commercial price or the cost of parts? You certainly seem to know what you're talking about - having seen your posts on one of the other threads.

If that's a commercial price, whereabouts are you in the UK? I still have a broken X3 in the yard which belongs to a mate. He hasn't had a quote over here (Belgium) under €5k - admittedly using all new parts. It might be worth looking at coming over to the UK... smile

caz_manc

Original Poster:

525 posts

225 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Touring442 said:
The job should cost about £1000-1500
Just got a quote for £2.5k, the car is just over 9 years old, but could look if the pump should have been recalled.

5 years ago, I was working on my own cars, but now I travel a lot for work and don't have a garage, so need to leave it to a professional.

Let me know if you fancy the job Touring442?

Touring442

3,096 posts

239 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Not my cup of tea to get involved with these, but I would recommend Parkside Garage, a BMW specialist in Worksop. You'd be looking at 200 quid to recover it. They charge 1000-1500 quid to put it right.

£2500 is too much.

01909 506555.