Lecturer stranded in China
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elanfan

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5,527 posts

251 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51249369

Whilst I sympathise with this lady’s plight I can’t help think - how fecking selfish. The latest on this virus is that it is contagious even during the incubation period. So bring her home, she infects her rescuers and spreads it to this country. What the absolute fk!

poo at Paul's

14,558 posts

199 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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elanfan said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51249369

Whilst I sympathise with this lady’s plight I can’t help think - how fecking selfish. The latest on this virus is that it is contagious even during the incubation period. So bring her home, she infects her rescuers and spreads it to this country. What the absolute fk!
How long has this virus been about in Wuhan? They've been there 3 weeks.....why not get out a fortnight ago?

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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There is a case to be made for UK to send an RAF transport with quarantined quarters to collect these people then stick them in isolation in a hanger at Brize Norton for two weeks.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

194 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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elanfan said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51249369

Whilst I sympathise with this lady’s plight I can’t help think - how fecking selfish. The latest on this virus is that it is contagious even during the incubation period. So bring her home, she infects her rescuers and spreads it to this country. What the absolute fk!
What if it was someone close to you?

amusingduck

9,649 posts

160 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Alucidnation said:
elanfan said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51249369

Whilst I sympathise with this lady’s plight I can’t help think - how fecking selfish. The latest on this virus is that it is contagious even during the incubation period. So bring her home, she infects her rescuers and spreads it to this country. What the absolute fk!
What if it was someone close to you?
Then he'd be far less objective, and should be kept even further away from the decisions

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

199 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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amusingduck said:
Alucidnation said:
elanfan said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51249369

Whilst I sympathise with this lady’s plight I can’t help think - how fecking selfish. The latest on this virus is that it is contagious even during the incubation period. So bring her home, she infects her rescuers and spreads it to this country. What the absolute fk!
What if it was someone close to you?
Then he'd be far less objective, and should be kept even further away from the decisions
Surely bringing her back with the associated risks, would be a far less objective thing to do rather than arrange for her to be quarantined in China, until the outbreak is under control, and then look to bring her back.

zygalski

7,759 posts

169 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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jsf said:
There is a case to be made for UK to send an RAF transport with quarantined quarters to collect these people then stick them in isolation in a hanger at Brize Norton for two weeks.
Can they not just run a blood test whilst in isolation? If so, people could potentially be in & out of quarantine within a few days.

Neonblau

875 posts

157 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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jsf said:
There is a case to be made for UK to send an RAF transport with quarantined quarters to collect these people then stick them in isolation in a hanger at Brize Norton for two weeks.
I'm sure the Chinese would have no problem allowing a foreign military aircraft to fly into the heartland and land in an infected city sealed off from the rest of the country.

matthias73

2,900 posts

174 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Where the fk has common sense gone.

She's not vital to the UK. leave her there.

oobie38

143 posts

199 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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matthias73 said:
Where the fk has common sense gone.

She's not vital to the UK. leave her there.
Other coutries are feeling that it's appropriate to repatriate (and presumably isolate) their non-vital citizens.
I don't think, considering what we know about transmission of the infection, that flying them back home is taking leave of common sense. Nobody is suggesting that they wouldn't be quarantined.

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

82 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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jsf said:
There is a case to be made for UK to send an RAF transport with quarantined quarters to collect these people then stick them in isolation in a hanger at Brize Norton for two weeks.
Who pays for it & why?

andymadmak

15,393 posts

294 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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She's been there 3 weeks. She could have got out earlier, but chose not to.
She's in a nice hotel (if the pictures are anything to go by) and it would appear (according to the article) that the Chinese hotel workers are taking good care of her.
It's unfortunate, but why can't she sit it out? It's not like she's on the streets or in a punishment block.
If the Government can agree with the Chinese authorities to get all similarly affected people to a single location for a pick up by the RAF, then fair enough, but I fancy that the Chinese have other things on their minds right now.
The pleas that foreigners should somehow be exempt from the travel ban suggest that there are still folk who think that being foreign somehow puts you above the rules in certain parts of the world

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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andymadmak said:
The pleas that foreigners should somehow be exempt from the travel ban suggest that there are still folk who think that being foreign somehow puts you above the rules in certain parts of the world
Sadly it’s a common attitude, oddly (in my experience) more prevalent in the world of academia.

Sheepshanks

39,498 posts

143 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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There's a bloke on our local news who is teaching out there - his 81yr old grandmother, who has COPD, was visiting him, and is now stuck. https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/lancas...

Earthdweller

18,186 posts

150 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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It might be considered heartless by some but my view is that either there IS quarantine and a travel ban or there isn’t and the nationality of those quarantined or banned from travelling is irrelevant



Alucidnation

16,810 posts

194 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Not saying I don't agree, it was more the OP's attitude.

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Earthdweller said:
It might be considered heartless by some but my view is that either there IS quarantine and a travel ban or there isn’t and the nationality of those quarantined or banned from travelling is irrelevant
yes

Ebola nurse shows how cautious we need to be

Murph7355

40,984 posts

280 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Sophisticated Sarah said:
andymadmak said:
The pleas that foreigners should somehow be exempt from the travel ban suggest that there are still folk who think that being foreign somehow puts you above the rules in certain parts of the world
Sadly it’s a common attitude, oddly (in my experience) more prevalent in the world of academia.
I agree. But I don't think thoughts of being "foreign" come into it. It's simply "everyone else but me".

Another "racism"/"xenophobic" angle that's just not there. Selfishness transcends such concepts and it is that which is rife all over the place (not just here).

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

91 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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jsf said:
There is a case to be made for UK to send an RAF transport with quarantined quarters to collect these people then stick them in isolation in a hanger at Brize Norton for two weeks.
sort of like have a few close-to patient zeros for when the mutant strain reaches us?

Murph7355

40,984 posts

280 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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jsf said:
There is a case to be made for UK to send an RAF transport with quarantined quarters to collect these people then stick them in isolation in a hanger at Brize Norton for two weeks.
Is there?

Will their travel insurance cover that....?