Car suggestions please. £4-5k. Lowish tax, fun to drive.
Car suggestions please. £4-5k. Lowish tax, fun to drive.
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paulguitar

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142 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Hello PH’ers. I work on cruise ships and I am away from the UK most of the year. I have had a Jaguar XK for a couple of years, it a glorious thing and I love it, but upon having done some sums and on the basis I will only be home for a few weeks in 2020, I can’t justify keeping it any more. So, I am looking to get something for around £4-5k and it needs to tick the following boxes:

1. Not in the top tax bracket (like the Jag), the lower the tax the better.
2. Ideally, something that will not lose much value at all or even not lose any value.
3. Fun to drive. Does not need to be practical.
4. It needs to perform reasonably well.

My first thoughts were BMW Z4 3.0 coupe, BMW 330i (E90/92).

Current frontrunner is Mazda MX5 NC 3.5 2.0 Sport Tech coupe.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance everyone.

Mr Tidy

31,211 posts

156 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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No other ideas, but your budget is really tight for a BMW Z4 Coupe - you will be looking at the bottom end of the market.

Although it should get you a good E9* 330i.

But as I've run one of each together for the last year the Z4 Coupe just always feels more special every time you get in it, and much more exciting.

I'm only selling my Z4 Coupe because I've bought a Z4M Coupe! And while it is £570 a year for road tax I just don't care, it is that amazing. laugh

Edited by Mr Tidy on Monday 27th January 01:48

paulguitar

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Monday 27th January 2020
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Mr Tidy said:
No other ideas, but your budget is really tight for a BMW Z4 Coupe - you will be looking at the bottom end of the market.

Although it should get you a good E9* 330i.

But as I've run one of each together for the last year the Z4 Coupe just always feels more special every time you get in it, and much more exciting.

I'm only selling my Z4 Coupe because I've bought a Z4M Coupe! And while it is £570 a year for road tax I just don't care, it is that amazing. laugh

Edited by Mr Tidy on Monday 27th January 01:48
Yes, you’re right, top of my budget is very much the starting point for the Z4 coupe, which is not the way I ordinarily like to do things.

The VED situation is important to me because I am so rarely at home. It’s one thing to pay the top rate if I am driving my car every week, but quite another when I am only there for a couple of months total in the whole year. The car tax effectively becomes £335 PER MONTH! rage

Mr Tidy

31,211 posts

156 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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paulguitar said:
Yes, you’re right, top of my budget is very much the starting point for the Z4 coupe, which is not the way I ordinarily like to do things.

The VED situation is important to me because I am so rarely at home. It’s one thing to pay the top rate if I am driving my car every week, but quite another when I am only there for a couple of months total in the whole year. The car tax effectively becomes £335 PER MONTH! rage
It could be worse, my MC is £570 a year. laugh

But it's a price I'll pay as long as I can!


paulguitar

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Does anyone have any suggestions?

Obee72

264 posts

114 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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BMW 130i.

paulguitar

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Obee72 said:
BMW 130i.
Thanks, I will have a look into those.


2wheelsjimmy

620 posts

126 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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Have you done the maths on simply renting something when you need it? Would possibly work out well.

paulguitar

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Monday 27th January 2020
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2wheelsjimmy said:
Have you done the maths on simply renting something when you need it? Would possibly work out well.
Yep, this is something I am looking into as well.

SurferManDan

19 posts

86 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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I'm guessing this isn't an option, but just incase...

How far ahead can you plan and can you plan to SORN the car for a month at a time to coincide with your trips?

Even one 1/12 saved would be worth it.

paulguitar

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Monday 27th January 2020
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SurferManDan said:
I'm guessing this isn't an option, but just incase...

How far ahead can you plan and can you plan to SORN the car for a month at a time to coincide with your trips?

Even one 1/12 saved would be worth it.
Good point, that is something I have done in the past, but now I keep it on the road and have a family member go for a drive every 2 weeks.

Cars really hate being left for 4 months, I had some nightmares with seized brakes, etc.



AshVX220

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219 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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Without sounding too PH, how about an MX5 for your budget, could get a nice Mk3. Or a really nice MK3 MR2, or even nicer Mk2 MR2?

DaveH23

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199 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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This isn't a dig OP but why not the higher bracket.

The 2 cars you have mentioned will get very different MPG which across the year could possibly be the value of the tax.

It's such a small cost to instantly write off so many interesting choices.

paulguitar

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Tuesday 28th January 2020
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AshVX220 said:
Without sounding too PH, how about an MX5 for your budget, could get a nice Mk3. Or a really nice MK3 MR2, or even nicer Mk2 MR2?
Yes, the MX5 mark 3.5 Sport Tech is currently heading my list. It’s a lot slower than I am used to, but having driven a couple in the past I think that hopefully won’t be an issue as they are great fun and feel faster than they are. It’s more about driving pleasure than pure speed to me anyway, I don’t do a big mileage. I will have a look into MR2’s, thanks for the suggestion.

paulguitar

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DaveH23 said:
This isn't a dig OP but why not the higher bracket.

The 2 cars you have mentioned will get very different MPG which across the year could possibly be the value of the tax.

It's such a small cost to instantly write off so many interesting choices.
I take your point but it’s just a bit soul-destroying having a £50 PM direct debit going out to the DVLA whilst I am working away. I’d be much happier with tax at £300 per year or under so that I would pay it in one lump and be able to do away with the direct debit.

paulguitar

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Tuesday 28th January 2020
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Mr Tidy said:
I'm only selling my Z4 Coupe because I've bought a Z4M Coupe! And while it is £570 a year for road tax I just don't care, it is that amazing. laugh

Edited by Mr Tidy on Monday 27th January 01:48
Is your Z4C still for sale Mr T?

paulguitar

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Wednesday 29th January 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
Good shout, but these are in the top tax bracket post-2006, same issue as the XK.

I think I am still leaning towards an MX5 Sport Tech at present.






daqinggegg

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158 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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Taking into account all the costs of ownership, tax, insurance, maintenance and depreciation add to this the cost of travel from/to UK entry point, surely it makes more sense to rent. Even renting from the more reputable companies you can get something decent for couple of weeks for GBP 500, and far cheaper if you shop around.
In the past when returning to the UK, I would rent from Avis, medium size car e.g. Golf, none of the worries of ownership and very convenient.

Azzurrinick

58 posts

90 months

Wednesday 29th January 2020
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

SLK350, very quick car, £325/year, not really a sports car, more of a roadster.