White Line - what does it mean ?

[anonymous-user]

Hi this road is quite narrow and car parking at this point block refuse wagons, ambulances, deliveries and so on. A couple of years ago a neighbour complained to the council and they painted this solid white line.

Since then it has made no difference, still parking takes places there as before, often vans and estate cars etc too. It doesn't affect me aside from bad tempered delivery drivers and others asking for cars to be moved, but I'm curious what legally it actually means if anything?

Does anyone know where such lines are covered in law or the Highway Code? I can't find anything on line.

Many TIA.

[The Surveyor]

I always through that a solid white line at the edge of the highway is just there to signify the edge of road. It does not signify any specific parking restriction.

Are there any 'no parking' notices?

[Zetec-S]

^^^ Agreed.

An edge line according to the highway code:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/road-...

or

Single solid white line: this line is painted on the left sides of the carriageway. They usually exist on private driveways and lay-bys
https://www.angloliners.co.uk/uk-road-markings-exp...


So I'd assume not actually enforceable?

[ScoobyChris]

Details in here (around 11.4.7) -> https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...

Chris

[agtlaw]

TSM, Chapter 5.

[Pica-Pica]

It just means the edge of the road. That’s all (helpful at night for bends, etc).

[EU_Foreigner]

Thanks - learned something new here ...

[anonymous-user]

Thanks everyone for your detailed replies.

[4rephill]

Pica-Pica said:

It just means the edge of the road. That’s all (helpful at night for bends, etc).

No it doesn't! - Try reading agtlaw's post, directly above your post.

These lines, with barred ends, are used specifically to try to point out to drivers that parking in that position will cause an inconvenience to other people, and to try to encourage them not to park there.

Sadly, far too many people are either completely ignorant as to what these lines are for, or are just so selfish that they don't care if they cause an inconvenience to other people with their parking (Which seems to be the norm today! )



The road edge demarcation line that you're talking about is something completely different.

[Pica-Pica]

4rephill said:

Pica-Pica said:

It just means the edge of the road. That’s all (helpful at night for bends, etc).

No it doesn't! - Try reading agtlaw's post, directly above your post.

These lines, with barred ends, are used specifically to try to point out to drivers that parking in that position will cause an inconvenience to other people, and to try to encourage them not to park there.

Sadly, far too many people are either completely ignorant as to what these lines are for, or are just so selfish that they don't care if they cause an inconvenience to other people with their parking (Which seems to be the norm today! )



The road edge demarcation line that you're talking about is something completely different.

I don’t think people pay much attention to causing inconveniences, so it has no legal command, so, again it marks the edge of the road.
(As you are attempting to be precise, the other post is actually below mine in my configuration, so I think you mean ‘before’).

[anonymous-user]

i.e. it means something but nothing in relation to making people change their behaviour.

[Cat]

Pica-Pica said:

I don’t think people pay much attention to causing inconveniences, so it has no legal command, so, again it marks the edge of the road.
(As you are attempting to be precise, the other post is actually below mine in my configuration, so I think you mean ‘before’).

Just because some people choose to ignore the marking and it doesn't have any "legal command" doesn't alter what it is nor does it change its purpose.

As others have already posted, the line in question is not to mark the edge of the road - it is to indicate "part of the carriageway which should be kept clear of parked vehicles either outside an entrance to off‑street , or where the kerb is dropped to provide a convenient crossing place for pedestrians."

Cat

[Pica-Pica]

Cat said:

Pica-Pica said:

I don’t think people pay much attention to causing inconveniences, so it has no legal command, so, again it marks the edge of the road.
(As you are attempting to be precise, the other post is actually below mine in my configuration, so I think you mean ‘before’).

Just because some people choose to ignore the marking and it doesn't have any "legal command" doesn't alter what it is nor does it change its purpose.

As others have already posted, the line in question is not to mark the edge of the road - it is to indicate "part of the carriageway which should be kept clear of parked vehicles either outside an entrance to off?street , or where the kerb is dropped to provide a convenient crossing place for pedestrians."

Cat

Sigh.Rinse and repeat...’general use’ and ‘normally used’ are the bits you miss out for these advisory (i.e. non-mandatory) edge markings.

“ 2.5.6. Diagram 1012.1 is intended for general use to delineate the edge of carriageway, particularly on unlit classified roads and those not having clearly defined raised kerbs.”

[JimbobVFR]

Wow you really don't want to admit you're wrong on this occasion do you?

Pica-Pica said:

Sigh.Rinse and repeat...’general use’ and ‘normally used’ are the bits you miss out for these advisory (i.e. non-mandatory) edge markings.

“ 2.5.6. Diagram 1012.1 is intended for general use to delineate the edge of carriageway, particularly on unlit classified roads and those not having clearly defined raised kerbs.”

[Swervin_Mervin]

Pica-Pica said:

Cat said:

Pica-Pica said:

I don’t think people pay much attention to causing inconveniences, so it has no legal command, so, again it marks the edge of the road.
(As you are attempting to be precise, the other post is actually below mine in my configuration, so I think you mean ‘before’).

Just because some people choose to ignore the marking and it doesn't have any "legal command" doesn't alter what it is nor does it change its purpose.

As others have already posted, the line in question is not to mark the edge of the road - it is to indicate "part of the carriageway which should be kept clear of parked vehicles either outside an entrance to off?street , or where the kerb is dropped to provide a convenient crossing place for pedestrians."

Cat

Sigh.Rinse and repeat...’general use’ and ‘normally used’ are the bits you miss out for these advisory (i.e. non-mandatory) edge markings.

“ 2.5.6. Diagram 1012.1 is intended for general use to delineate the edge of carriageway, particularly on unlit classified roads and those not having clearly defined raised kerbs.”

It's not Diag 1012.1. You're more wrong than could possibly be imagined given someone above has posted exactly what the marking is above, with an extract from TSRGD

[Cat]

Pica-Pica said:

Sigh.Rinse and repeat...’general use’ and ‘normally used’ are the bits you miss out for these advisory (i.e. non-mandatory) edge markings.

“ 2.5.6. Diagram 1012.1 is intended for general use to delineate the edge of carriageway, particularly on unlit classified roads and those not having clearly defined raised kerbs.”

You can sigh all you like. As others have pointed out the line in the picture is not to diagram 1021.1. Keep digging though.

Cat

[Pica-Pica]

To return to OP’s question - it is not legally enforceable. I think there is agreement on that. Other factors may be present to make leaving a vehicle there an obstruction.