European Emission Zones
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OLDBENZ

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442 posts

157 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I am curious whether anyone running a classic has been stopped/fined for running in an CritAIr or low emissions zone in France or elsewhere in Europe.

I tend to take a UK registered classic (as in over 40 plus years old) from the UK to the South of France at least once a year. Our French friends make things particularly difficult in theory by having each local authority applying a zone determine whether to exempt classics. So far I have just ignored the whole thing with no issue but as more and more zones are added to the network I wonder whether I should start paying more attention.

Thanks.


mike9009

9,378 posts

264 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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We took our 1982 VW camper to Vendée a couple of years ago.

As there is no Euro emissions standard for the vehicle., we could not get a Crit d'air sticker for it.

The whole Vendée region is impacted, so if the pollutants were high, we would have been banned from driving. I checked when it was last enforced. It had never been enforced so we went with no issues. On the outside chance we could have been stopped and a 130E fine.

We are doing the same again this year.

Last year we went into Paris for five days, so I took my 330i instead, as I don't think my camper would be allowed inside the Periphique during certain hours. It just depends where you are going. From a high level view if you are going into cities you might run into issues otherwise you should be okay.

It is not the easiest thing to understand and my interpretation may be wrong. But so far I have not been caught or questioned even on the autoroutes.

Mike

Vintage Racer

630 posts

166 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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I would not worry, as I live here and the French 'departments', can't even agree on the speed limits that were brought in 2 years ago.

Some are enforcing the new 80kph limits, whilst others have changed their minds and already gone back to 90kph!

Ahh, the joys of living in France biggrin.


10126 Torino

4,875 posts

100 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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More and more countries and cities are becoming cleaner air zones.

Many cities in Italy have signs on the outskirts about restrictions for anything older than Euro 1.

Brussels is gradually bringing in a rolling restriction on older cars.

Many German cities have the "Umwelt zones" ,a cheap 5e sticker is all that's needed to comply with that for many.

OLDBENZ

Original Poster:

442 posts

157 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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10126 Torino said:
More and more countries and cities are becoming cleaner air zones.

Many cities in Italy have signs on the outskirts about restrictions for anything older than Euro 1.

Brussels is gradually bringing in a rolling restriction on older cars.

Many German cities have the "Umwelt zones" ,a cheap 5e sticker is all that's needed to comply with that for many.
It seems that Germany has a countrywide exemption for unmodified classics (as in 30plus years old). Italy is supposed to manage its low emission zones by district or whatever they call them with each setting their own exemptions although I read that historics are exempt from compliance with most zones.

Brussels, should anyone have any wish to go there, apparently exempts historics but of course being Brussels makes you register on some tediously bureaucratic form.

hmg

830 posts

140 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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Interesting announcement last month by the French federation of classic vehicles, which seems to suggest a slight U turn.

Classic Le Mans……We are going en convoy with a mixed bag of classics.

Part of our routes would take us into Rouen and possibly on the return journeys Reims.

As I understand it the emissions leglislation rules around certain towns/cities for certain cars have been delayed/ changed?

https://www.ffve.org/zones-a-faibles-emissions-zfe...

As a pre 97 car we cannot apply for a crit air vignette but I’m unsure on the current situation.

Obviously don’t want a convoy of cars to be ticketed if we can help it !!

Anyone with a better understanding of the new rules or actually in France that can throw some light on the actual rules ?

https://www.ffve.org/IMG/pdf/reims_arrete_zfe_v15_...

leyorkie

1,771 posts

197 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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I’m not 100% certain that Paris is the only full time CritAir area. All the other areas have to be declared when pollution reaches a certain level and then it can be a city area or even the whole Department.
I’ll be going through Rouen in April I’ll look out for any signs.
If it’s a problem then you can follow the autoroute to bypass the city.

hmg

830 posts

140 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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leyorkie said:
I’m not 100% certain that Paris is the only full time CritAir area. All the other areas have to be declared when pollution reaches a certain level and then it can be a city area or even the whole Department.
I’ll be going through Rouen in April I’ll look out for any signs.
If it’s a problem then you can follow the autoroute to bypass the city.
Planning an overnight stay in central Riems on the way back to Calais.

From what I can make out exemptions are to be put in place for cars classed as historic ( over 30th old),looks like some sort of vignette as proof of exemption is being planned. Obviously they are talking about French cars in the articles

As UK cars on a planned rally it looks like we would be exempt too if I’m reading it correctly..How we prove this and when the exemption is to be introduced is a bit of a grey area at present?