What’s wrong with the Audi TT?
What’s wrong with the Audi TT?
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ChrisH72

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3,017 posts

79 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I’ve seen a few 2.0 sports on 12/13 plates for under my £9k budget. They look good to me, lovely interior and certainly quick enough on paper with 60 in 6.1 secs. Reviews are fairly positive as well, not the sharpest drive but not bad by any means.

But there doesn’t seem to be much love for them on this forum and I’ve never seen the TT recommended in any of the what car threads.

Are they worth considering or are they really just for hairdressers after all?

Trevor555

5,353 posts

111 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I like them, and I'm not a hairdresser. Honest.

I never had a problem selling them on the forecourt, and good examples nearly always made into book at the auctions.

Into book for the layman is "above our guide trade value"

I've had a few as my personal cars also.

Yes I got the comments "is that jills car?" even on the RS one lol

But go and drive one.

Sharp track tool they are not, very good road car they are.

A MK2 V6 manual is a lovely drive, rare too.

And I reckon low mileage, mint, MK1's are soon going to begin to rise in value.

Flame suit on....

Nickp82

3,897 posts

120 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Not the sharpest drive is just about it for me. I really like the styling of the TT in all forms, the interior is lovely and they are an overall nice car. But they are just not that exciting to drive and a sporty coupe really should be (IMO)

vtecyo

2,122 posts

156 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Oil consumption on a few of them from 09-12 but other than that nothing. I’m torn between one of those, maybe even a TTS, and a gt86. Honestly think the TT would be much better to live with. When my megane was being repaired I had a mk3 to use courtesy of the other persons insurance. Didn’t want to give it back.

Edited by vtecyo on Friday 31st January 10:57

ZX10R NIN

30,399 posts

152 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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They are a decent car they're not the sharpest nor the most practical, I find when people are looking for a two door coupe they'll normally skate past these I think it's due to them being a 2.0T at which point a more practical hot hatch normally comes into play.

I'd be looking for a 3.2 with your budget yes the tax is stiff but that engine adds a bit of character to the car:

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romeodelta

1,147 posts

188 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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I had a mk2 3.2 V6 S-tronic.

Looked/sounded great, nice interior, felt solid and drove well, if a little numb.

Underrated car I think.

I remember a lot of Clarkson quotes back in the day, that it’s a poseurs car, which didn’t do it many favours.

Most that slate it haven’t driven or owned one.

Edited by romeodelta on Friday 31st January 05:33

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

237 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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romeodelta said:
I remember a lot of Clarkson quotes back in the day, that it’s a poseurs car, which didn’t do it many favours.

Most that slate it haven’t driven or owned one.

Edited by romeodelta on Friday 31st January 05:33
That pretty much nails it.
Drive a mk1 and mk2 TT they are very different, don't believe the nonsense that they drive the same as a Golf and see if it floats your boat.

My critism of the mk2 TT is I do find the steering to be too light and it never felt fully loaded if that makes sense, you expect steering to get a bit firmer when really leaning on the car but the Audi is strangely linear so although the car has plenty of grip you don't necessarily feel it's all there. That's based on a few thousand miles of driving a 2011 TTS

Oh and if you expect to use the rear seats I can tell you from experience there is very little head room, I'm 5"8. The GT86 is far more practical as I can sit comfortably in the back of one of those!


malks222

2,275 posts

166 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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they are really good cars.

I had a mk2 3.2 (stronic) for 2 years and about 40k miles and loved it! as mentioned, not the sharpest handling sports car out there. but certainly very capable and a nice place to sit.

i loved the 3.2 v6. fuel economy wasn’t terrible about 300-320 miles out of a £60 tank. If considering the 3.2, top tip- the manual attracts £500 road tax, the auto/stronic/ dsg..... is £200 (ish, can’t remember exactly) as it sneaks into the lower emissions band.

practicality wise- the back seats are only useful to put your jacket on. i had people in the back and even on a 5min drive to the pub was pretty uncomfortable for them. but the boot is pretty decent, food down the back seats and you have a great loading space. regularly had bikes and skis in the back of mine, had a canoe on the roof with roofbars. used mine in all weathers and it never missed a beat. only ever needed scheduled servicing, and i bought mine for £14k and traded in 2 years later for £9k, prob one of the best value/ enjoyable cars i’ve owned!

Hitch

6,118 posts

221 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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They're great cars as daily drivers. Unfortunately suffer from Clarksonist idiots saying they're 'a golf in a posh frock'. See also MX5 hair dressers, Porsche Cocksters etc. More fool them.

Try one.

Edited by Hitch on Friday 31st January 13:50

MTech535

613 posts

138 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Hitch said:
They're great cars as daily drivers. Unfortunately suffer from Clarksonist idiots saying they're 'a golf in a posh frock'. See also MX5 hair dressers, Porsche Cocksters etc. More fool them.

Try one.

Edited by Hitch on Friday 31st January 13:50
They are 'a golf in a posh frock', but so is a scirocco, I have had one of those and it was great to drive.

The only concern i would have is repair costs, but would apply to any 10 year old premium German car.

cerb4.5lee

43,675 posts

207 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Had a mk2 TTS and it was a lovely thing to sit in and live with. Quick too at 0 to 60 in 5.2 seconds. My main criticism was that it was quite dull to drive and not especially engaging, really liked everything else about it though.

Torquey

1,955 posts

255 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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I've driven a few and never been startled by them. Similar to driving many hatchbacks but without the practicality of a hatch or the thrill of a coupe/roadster.

Just another confused car IMO.

Jonny_gti

291 posts

107 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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Had a mk1 TT 180 which was remapped to around 230. Great car, surprisingly quick and great build quality not much went wrong. The mk2 never really got the same love as the mk1 due to the styling not being as out there. Mk2 3.2 or TTS would be my choice for value.

ChrisH72

Original Poster:

3,017 posts

79 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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That’s interesting thanks. So mainly overlooked as they are just not as sporty to drive as people expect a coupe to be?

Much as the sound of the 3.2 appeals I think I’d really be focusing on the smaller engines. The in line 6 of my Beemer is very characterful and I will miss that but I do think it’s time to move on to a 4 cylinder turbo for reduced running costs and low down torque for easier day to day driving. I’d like to try the Audi with the 2.0 tfsi or even, dare I say, the 1.8 which I’m sure is quick enough for my needs. It’s quicker on paper than a GT86 anyway.

The lack of practicality might well rule it out though so it’s probably a long shot.

At least I’m narrowing down my choices. Currently have 2 coupes and maybe 3 hatches to look at.

Cheers

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

237 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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MTech535 said:
They are 'a golf in a posh frock', but so is a scirocco, I have had one of those and it was great to drive.

The only concern i would have is repair costs, but would apply to any 10 year old premium German car.
That's the thing, although a TT shares some of its platform with a Golf the major chassis is different, the TT is made of considerably more aluminium, it has a lower centre of gravity, different weight distribution. Then there are things like the alloy lower arms, different hubs, different steering rack ratios, bigger brakes as standard, different gear ratios and so on.

There really are a lot more differences between a Golf and a TT, ones that can influence the driving experience.

stevemcs

10,172 posts

120 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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We had a Mk1 for 9 years, it was a Golf in a pretty bodyshell, drove lots of Mk2's, the 2.0TFsi was a great engine but i never liked the flat bottom steering wheel, seats or driving position, the Mk3 is the better compromise but out of budget. The Z4 is a better car in every single way, even more so if it says 35i on the side.

anonymous-user

81 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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If you're used to VAG models no doubt you'll think the TT is a decent drive, but in reality it ranks way lower than pretty much everything else - and I'm not just talking about prestige stuff. You'll have more fun in Fords, Renaults, Hondas etc in terms of driver feedback. Yes, I am even talking about the Mk2 TT too.

Its style over substance, which is why its main appeal is to women. The opposite being a Caterham.

That's not to say it isn't a decent 'car', it is, I've driven loads of them and I suppose if you look past the styling it's a decent enough A-B car but if you have an ounce of petrol running through your veins it takes an odd sort of person to plump for a TT over it's much more involving rivals.

ChrisH72

Original Poster:

3,017 posts

79 months

Friday 31st January 2020
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We'll see.

My mate had a nightmare with a MK1 225 a few years ago. A week after he bought it the clutch collapsed and the instrument cluster failed. His own fault really as he bought it cheap from a private seller and it had very big miles. Ended up moving it on at a loss of about a grand in less than a month.

As I said it is a long shot at the bottom of the list. My other options are most likely better and are not prestige marques which hopefully would avoid prestige costs. I've only just recovered from a large bill on the BMW and that was 2 years ago! Audi is no doubt similar.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

134 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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Nothing wrong with them - just a little small and snug. Would hate to be in a crash in one

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

237 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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Oppo said:
If you're used to VAG models no doubt you'll think the TT is a decent drive, but in reality it ranks way lower than pretty much everything else - and I'm not just talking about prestige stuff. You'll have more fun in Fords, Renaults, Hondas etc in terms of driver feedback. Yes, I am even talking about the Mk2 TT too.
I'm intrigued, are you able to list some more of these coupes that can offer turbo awd setups from those manufactures.?


The megane coupe mk3 shape is a kind of the right lines if you are only looking for FWD. Whilst the megane is a fun package it has its floors especially in non RenaultSport varieties, which are just very grey/cheap feeling.

Where are these Ford coupes that drive so much better? I suspect most TT owners /potential owners have no interest in a Focus or mondeo, or are we into the realms of suggesting a SN95 Mustang is a suitable competitor?

A Honda integra Dc5 is a very fine car, I'm a big fan and own a Ep3 Civic type r as well. The integra is far superior in handling /driving terms than a TT but you need £7-10k to get a Dc5 where as you can get a newer, lower mileage, better spec'd/ TT which if used as a daily driver will be a better car 6 days of the week for half that amount.

You're entitled to hate TTs, that's fine, but in the grand scheme of things they must be better than certain experts believe as they still win the bulk of group tests.