cheap motorcycle gps - yay or nay
cheap motorcycle gps - yay or nay
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hellsbuddha

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350 posts

273 months

Friday 7th February 2020
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Is it worth getting a cheap m/c gps or am I better off connecting a headset to my phone and using waze or something?

what do others do?

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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I just use my phone in a quad lock case, then you can just use Waze and stream music to your headset.

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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For ad hoc use I just use my phone in ultimate add ons case, running google maps is fine. Wear bluetooth headset in cities so no need to look at phone all the time for directions.

When touring have a power lead and use tomtom software on phone, better than google maps when there is no internet connection. If you have a trickle charger lead on the bike you can get a USB convertor for it about £15, works fine but not so waterproof in heavy rain.

A real motorcycle sat nav has its plus points, but expensive to justify unless It was getting used daily to navigate to different places

Biker 1

8,602 posts

149 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Get a decent Garmin or similar. The cheaper units either have previous generation processors so are very slow, or are made from sub-standard materials with zero customer support, or suffer both these issues....
Smartphones are great, but generally are not nearly as robust/weatherproof as standalone GPS.
Do people really stream music while riding?? I thought the whole idea was to get away from all that & enjoy the smells, sounds of the ride, besides, it is chuffing dangerous if you can't hear what's around you.....

Olas

911 posts

87 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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You already have a phone, and the Waze gps app is free, with live updates in real-time.

Just download Waze.

trickywoo

14,245 posts

260 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Biker 1 said:
it is chuffing dangerous if you can't hear what's around you.....
I use my ears on a push bike but on a motorbike, really?

You should really be wearing earplugs but with a helmet on and then wind and your own engine noise, what exactly are you hearing to keep you safe?

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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I listen to music all time and have only died 6 times so far.

MajorMantra

1,714 posts

142 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Biker 1 said:
Do people really stream music while riding?? I thought the whole idea was to get away from all that & enjoy the smells, sounds of the ride, besides, it is chuffing dangerous if you can't hear what's around you.....
In my case it's podcasts but yeah, I wouldn't be able to commute by bike otherwise, I'd die of boredom.

As above, you shouldn't be riding (at any kind of speed) without earplugs anyway. And a good set of earplugs/headphones will still let you hear the important stuff like sirens, while reducing the likelihood of hearing loss.

croyde

26,479 posts

260 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Earplugs, pah. I've been riding since the 70s and filming rock bands whilst on stage with them at festivals, one ear defender off my right ear so I can hear what's going on.

Can you turn the bloody telly up and look at me when you are talking as I need to read your lips.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

293 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Biker 1 said:
Get a decent Garmin or similar.

it is chuffing dangerous if you can't hear what's around you.....
I've been trying to follow my Garmin around the lanes today... very distracting looking at the screen all the time

I don't listen to music but with helmet & earplugs I can barely hear my bike (with endcan) let alone anything else

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Biker 1 said:
... besides, it is chuffing dangerous if you can't hear what's around you.....
Are you suggesting deaf people can't ride motorcycles safely?

Haltamer

2,676 posts

110 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Jazoli said:
I just use my phone in a quad lock case, then you can just use Waze and stream music to your headset.
Beware these - There has been some trouble reported with phones that use optical image stabilization (Notably the IphoneX) where after use, The camera will flicker in and out of focus.

A friend used one for one journey on a CBF125, And the camera was busted - A large number of others have reported this too (motorcycles subreddit etc)

rm163603

656 posts

278 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Whatever you do don't get the Garmin 595LM like I did.

The problem I have with it are:

The display is too dim to be easily seen.

It's a big heavy thing.

There are animal crossing warnings you can't switch off.

The routing is sketchy. It always seems to pick a worse route than Google maps.

The optional and expensive tyre pressure monitoring is totally useless. Its unreliable which is not what you want in a tpms. The sensors often loose connection with the nav unit.

I bought it to replace my old tontom rider which I'd used on European tours for many years. It had worked well for me but had a fairly small screen and there was a dodgy connection so sometimes it didn't charge.

I'd got used to using my nav as a kind of pace notes to spot possible hazards, sharp bends or straights up ahead. Really useful on roads you might not have ridden before.

The zooming on the rider worked well enough to make this a useful tool. With the Garmin it just doesn't.

The most recent Tom tom units look to have a brighter screen as well. My Garmin is impossible to see in bright sun.

I'm now tempted to get a waterproof case thing for my note 9 and use Waze or Tom tom on that.

Sorry for the rambling rant but I would under no circumstances get a Garmin again. They feel underdeveloped especially for the price they charge.


JamesD74

244 posts

205 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Quadlock, S8+ powered from din socket and TomTom app so data not required. Works well for me.

phatmanace

679 posts

239 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Funny how often this topic comes up.

I used (or tried to use) a phone for the first couple of years of riding, and then I bought a Garmin (I think it's the one that one of the posters further up said he didn't like

anyway, my garmin was genius - I think its the best thing I've ever bought for the bike, I bought it 2nd hand on ebay for a little over £120.

The problem with the phone is that I couldn't ever find a decent solution for a holder. I tried various forms of the the ones that the delveroo riders use, but they all felt pretty clumsy to use, esp disconnecting/reconnecting the charging lead.

JxJ Jr.

653 posts

100 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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A company called Beeline makes handlebar mounted GPS for pedal & motorbikes that seem to get good reviews.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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GoPros use EIS (Electronic Image Stabilisation), I think they call it "Hypersmooth". Basically it uses a combo of under-sizing the output video from the sensor resolution (so they have a dead border they can move the frame around in to match the previous one when vibration moves it around) and clever software layering to counteract vibration.

Anything optically stabilised will be damaged on a vibey bike, it's just a matter of time.

SBDJ

1,333 posts

234 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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When I was doing decent miles I always had Waze on for Police alerts. Far better than my TomTom or Garmin units in that respect.

The obvious downside - needing touchscreen compatible gloves (or modifying them to work).

I use my Note 8 mounted on a Fitclic Neo.

hellsbuddha

Original Poster:

350 posts

273 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Thanks all

I do have an old TomTom rider but it doesn't seem to charge via the wall socket.

Given the price of quadlock etc I wonder if I can pick up a cheap GPS even a car one that runs off batteries (I don't ride in the wet much)

archie456

522 posts

252 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Is it just that the Tomtom battery is knackered?

I changed the battery in a car Tomtom. Batteries were easily available and it was a pretty simple job.

I suspect it might be similar with the Rider.