V12V - main dealer brake disc check
V12V - main dealer brake disc check
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cornershop

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2,150 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Hello chaps

Soon to collect a new to me 2010 V12V.

re CCM, I noticed the brake disc check section of the service book was blank, not something I was expecting for a 10 year old car with FAMSH.

When is it supposed to be undertaken?


Graze01

1,192 posts

122 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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It's supposed to be done annually with each service, but, it doesn't get done

Depends on mileage

How many miles has your car done and when we're pads replaced

Rule of thumb is 3 sets of pads equal new rotors

Search forum for CCM rotors, there is a long discussion on it

Oh congrats by the way - stonking good cars!

Graze

cornershop

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2,150 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Graze01 said:
It's supposed to be done annually with each service, but, it doesn't get done

Depends on mileage

How many miles has your car done and when we're pads replaced

Rule of thumb is 3 sets of pads equal new rotors

Search forum for CCM rotors, there is a long discussion on it

Oh congrats by the way - stonking good cars!

Graze
Thanks Graze - i wonder if there would be any comeback if they were not checked but I had an issue later on (car comes with 12m AM warranty but assuming discs/pads not covered)

No record of pads being changed in service records I saw - approaching 20k miles.

Also wondering if discs are only checked when pads are changed?

The time spent looking over the car is a bit of a blur unfortunately, excitement took over.

ds666

3,161 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Bought the Wilmslow car ?

cornershop

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226 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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ds666 said:
Bought the Wilmslow car ?
Nope, found one 8 miles away at HWM!
2 owner
20k miles
Lightweight seats


ds666

3,161 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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That was handy !

cornershop

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2,150 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Yes indeed - HWM seem to have a better rep, will see if they deliver.

Found this on another thread - appears the discs thickness is only checked every pad change?:


ds666

3,161 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Mine has no record of pad changes and is on 30000 miles . Not sure what is normal with ceramics ?

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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The problem is the discs are supposed to be kiln dried first, then weighed. Thats not a quick process and I doubt that many dealers have the equipment, will, or inclination to bother. As a customer service experience it isn’t going to go down well in terms of timescales for service times, and not many dealers are enthusiastic about giving any owner the wonderful news that their ccm discs need changing for several thousands.

RiknRoll

178 posts

209 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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As Soofsayer said, checking CCM's is a big time-consuming (i.e. expensive) undertaking and rarely needed for CCM's at that mileage - it's not about rotor thickness but weight, which indeed involves a kiln to dry them out.

I am sure they would check them visually - things that can be seen on CCM's visually is whether detergents have been used for cleaning (damages the CCM's), any notable scoring (from the pads), or chips/cracks. You can expect the rotors often will show some roughness, visible in the grain - that's perfectly normal.

My V12V is similar mileage, also on it's first set of pads, wouldn't expect to change them until 30-40k miles. The discs if looked after properly will last 3x pad sets as also said above. Be exceedingly cautious if taking them on track, that can wear them far more quickly. If you need replacement then check with Rebrake in Germany first, for refurbishment at a fraction of the cost of new ones.


bignoise

314 posts

131 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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I would have thought first set of pads at that mileage

Im at just under 40k on my Vanq although 1mm above the pin breakthrough limit

BlackV8

268 posts

128 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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... maybe this manual helps you to clarify some service questions on CCM‘s ...

Cheers

http://www.woodhousemotorsports.com/wp-content/upl...

JohnG1

3,487 posts

235 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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soofsayer said:
The problem is the discs are supposed to be kiln dried first, then weighed. Thats not a quick process and I doubt that many dealers have the equipment, will, or inclination to bother. As a customer service experience it isn’t going to go down well in terms of timescales for service times, and not many dealers are enthusiastic about giving any owner the wonderful news that their ccm discs need changing for several thousands.
I bet no UK Aston Martin franchise main dealer has the kiln needed to dry out brake discs. Why? In the last what - 11 years has anyone on this forum ever written that their discs have been kiln dried and weighed by a UK Aston Martin franchise main dealer?



bignoise

314 posts

131 months

Tuesday 11th February 2020
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BlackV8 said:
... maybe this manual helps you to clarify some service questions on CCM‘s ...

Cheers

http://www.woodhousemotorsports.com/wp-content/upl...
Thanks for this

Phil57DBS

208 posts

105 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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JohnG1 said:
I bet no UK Aston Martin franchise main dealer has the kiln needed to dry out brake discs. Why? In the last what - 11 years has anyone on this forum ever written that their discs have been kiln dried and weighed by a UK Aston Martin franchise main dealer?
Yes here in Bordeaux when I bought my car with 74000kms ... I was worried about the brakes and they did it !
everything was ok with the original brake pads only half worn !!! and very shiny discs wink