90mph in a 70 (motorway) - what to expect?
90mph in a 70 (motorway) - what to expect?
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2Btoo

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3,815 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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I hoped I'd never have to post this on here but ....

I've just had a NIP for 90 on a motorway.

What should I expect?

£100 fine and an SP50?

Court?

Speed awareness course?

Place your bets, or offer helpful advice as you see fit!

Thanks.

(Other details: First offence, been driving for 20+ years, clean licence, no reason to claim hardship.)

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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2Btoo said:
£100 fine and an SP50?
This. Too high for speed awareness, too low for court (unless you play silly buggers)

Ron99

1,985 posts

110 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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2Btoo said:
£100 fine and an SP50?

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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And 3 points

parabolica

7,010 posts

213 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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Scotland, or somewhere else in the UK?

2Btoo

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3,815 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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Thanks guys.

South side of M25. Surrey police.

How much difference will 3 points make to my insurance next year? (I need to declare it for 5 years, non?)

Tony1963

5,808 posts

191 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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It might make no difference at all, it might make quite a bit of difference. You should declare it for as long as your insurance company wants you to. No point doing otherwise.

2Btoo

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3,815 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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Interesting, thanks Tony.

I thought that insurance companies had access to DVLA records so there was no point in telling porkies about points as they would find out anyway? Not that lying ever was a good idea ....

douglasb

316 posts

251 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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There is no standard answer to that. Do you have any popints already, what do you drive, what is your occupation, etc..?

It's over 10 years since I had points however it made no difference to my insurance and when I phoned the insurer to tell them of the points they said (pretty much) "We regard it as so easy to pick up 3 points these days for doing something that you're not aware of that we don't bother with the first 3 points". YMMV

jonwm

2,737 posts

143 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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2Btoo said:
Thanks guys.

South side of M25. Surrey police.

How much difference will 3 points make to my insurance next year? (I need to declare it for 5 years, non?)
I got 3 points in September and insurance was around £40 more.

Difference I noticed on the comparison sites was the amount of companies quoting low had reduced. Definitely less to choose from than with no points.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

304 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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The world is now a sorry place.
You used to be able to cruise at 90mph on the motorway without fear of prosecution or penalty.
Just lift off when passing a panda car, so as not to take the pi55.
And I don't want to hear, oh but the roads are so much busier now. They always were busy, in which case you were forced to knock back your speed until it cleared.

mikeiow

8,150 posts

159 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Jarcy said:
The world is now a sorry place.
You used to be able to cruise at 90mph on the motorway without fear of prosecution or penalty.
Just lift off when passing a panda car, so as not to take the pi55.
And I don't want to hear, oh but the roads are so much busier now. They always were busy, in which case you were forced to knock back your speed until it cleared.
Ha!
Okay, how about "there are so many more sh!te drivers now" ?

I *personally* feel that as cars are way safer than when the 70mph limit was originally imposed, the motorway limit should be 80-90 (as per France - 130km/h), reduced in heavy rain to 70 (France - 110km/h).....but again, there are plenty of awful drivers who are far more likely to cause trouble than the 'busier roads".

BTW, roads are busier now, however much you don't want to hear it.
Hence the woeful 'SMART Motorways" which offer even more opportunities to die frown


OP, yes, standard SP50, fine, 3pts. Most insurance companies shouldn't make too much of it until you get more, but YMMV.....

SeeFive

8,353 posts

262 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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About 10 years ago, on an almost empty M3 Hants at night I passed a car at 87 on cruise. As I cleared it to pull back in the silly bugger had accelerated up on the inside closer to me which would have not left enough gap for him, so I gave a small squirt to clear him and pull back in. Then his blue lights in the grille came on.

92mph was 3 points and a fine. 87 would probably have been the same I guess. Hopefully still the same now.

Good luck.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

304 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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SeeFive said:
About 10 years ago, on an almost empty M3 Hants at night I passed a car at 87 on cruise. As I cleared it to pull back in the silly bugger had accelerated up on the inside closer to me which would have not left enough gap for him, so I gave a small squirt to clear him and pull back in. Then his blue lights in the grille came on.

92mph was 3 points and a fine. 87 would probably have been the same I guess. Hopefully still the same now.

Good luck.
Similar story for me. Was passing some cars on the A33 at about 80mph. An Omega comes barrelling up behind me, so I put my foot down so as to complete the pass and pull over so he can get past. But instead he pulls in behind me and then on come the hidden blues. Was done for about 90mph. Ah, the good old days.

chippiepat

27 posts

190 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Agree, speed limit on motorway should be raised in my opinion, can’t just make rules for the iffy drivers.by the way; be careful in France, I got stopped this year for being 41 kph over the limit ( 80 ), automatic on the spot 2 months ban.
Not too bad for me ‘cos got holiday home there & was staying for 5-6 months.Bit of a bh if you’re holidaying with the wife & kids for a couple of weeks & can’t get home.

PorkInsider

6,585 posts

170 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Edit: I think this still stands but the 'summons' bit would be SJPN, wouldn't it.

Edited by PorkInsider on Friday 14th February 16:20

2Btoo

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3,815 posts

232 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Thanks. Slightly sobering to think that I was 6mph off being summonsed. (An aside but I looked at my speedo the moment I was flashed and it said 87. I am 100% sure of this and the speedo is accurate to GPS. I know that this argument won't get me anywhere but it's slightly galling none the less.)

Thanks for your help chaps.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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If the limit was raised people would do 10%+2 more than that because that’s what they already do. If it was 80 people would do 90, if it was 90 they’d do 100, etc. You know it, I know it.

If you set cruise for 80 you’re probably never going to gave a problem, so there is already leeway.

This leeway is never enough though, which makes raising the limit redundant.

2Btoo

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3,815 posts

232 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Durzel said:
If the limit was raised people would do 10%+2 more than that because that’s what they already do. If it was 80 people would do 90, if it was 90 they’d do 100, etc. You know it, I know it.

If you set cruise for 80 you’re probably never going to gave a problem, so there is already leeway.

This leeway is never enough though, which makes raising the limit redundant.
Durzel,

That may be true but you could use the same argument to lower the speed limit to anything you like. 60mph max on motorways? Come to think about it, what's wrong with 40?

However this thread isn't the place for a debate on speed limits! Thanks for your help.

scottgb

5 posts

144 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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