Professional Driver
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My BIL took early retirement some years ago however now does part time driving for a barrister. Basically he drives the barristers car for him on occasional business related events but moreoften its social events - nights out, concerts hes attending, or it might be dropping him to, picking him up from the airport.
Hes on the guys insurance for his car. He gets an hourly rate for the work.
Hes thinking of expanding this out and offering it as a service to people. So you'd employ him as a driver for the evening driving your car if you wanted to go out for a meal & a few drinks etc.
He is working on getting some sort of insurance that allows him to drive other cars fully comp, but is there any legislation he might fall foul of. Its not taxi driving per se, as its the persons own car?
Hes on the guys insurance for his car. He gets an hourly rate for the work.
Hes thinking of expanding this out and offering it as a service to people. So you'd employ him as a driver for the evening driving your car if you wanted to go out for a meal & a few drinks etc.
He is working on getting some sort of insurance that allows him to drive other cars fully comp, but is there any legislation he might fall foul of. Its not taxi driving per se, as its the persons own car?
Its quite a tricky one I think to give a definitive answer on as it can be a bit of a minefield.
I had my HGV/LGV licences revoked from me in 2014 on some very dodgy medical grounds, (which is a whole other done to death story.)
I needed to look for other work and thought, chauffeuring and taxi/private hire driving would be my way forward and this is what I found out at the time.
I could not be a taxi driver, or work as a chauffeur/driver for a third party company that required me to have a PCO licence. For these I would require a medical, and this medical is set at the same standard of that of LGV and PCV drivers.
So the DVLA deemed me unfit to drive a taxi/pco 5 seater vehicle, although they had just given me my car licence back, hmmm!!!
However.
Through PH ironically, a job offer came about that would see me as a 'private' chauffeur for a large family. After researching this, it turned out that as I was being employed as a private driver for the family, this was now ok, as I was working for them as an employee direct, and not what is classed as 'hire and reward.'
Hopefully I haven't made this too long winded, (I have had a drink.) Just trying to show what a minefield things can be.
I had my HGV/LGV licences revoked from me in 2014 on some very dodgy medical grounds, (which is a whole other done to death story.)
I needed to look for other work and thought, chauffeuring and taxi/private hire driving would be my way forward and this is what I found out at the time.
I could not be a taxi driver, or work as a chauffeur/driver for a third party company that required me to have a PCO licence. For these I would require a medical, and this medical is set at the same standard of that of LGV and PCV drivers.
So the DVLA deemed me unfit to drive a taxi/pco 5 seater vehicle, although they had just given me my car licence back, hmmm!!!
However.
Through PH ironically, a job offer came about that would see me as a 'private' chauffeur for a large family. After researching this, it turned out that as I was being employed as a private driver for the family, this was now ok, as I was working for them as an employee direct, and not what is classed as 'hire and reward.'
Hopefully I haven't made this too long winded, (I have had a drink.) Just trying to show what a minefield things can be.
Deep Thought said:
My BIL took early retirement some years ago however now does part time driving for a barrister. Basically he drives the barristers car for him on occasional business related events but moreoften its social events - nights out, concerts hes attending, or it might be dropping him to, picking him up from the airport.
Hes on the guys insurance for his car. He gets an hourly rate for the work.
Hes thinking of expanding this out and offering it as a service to people. So you'd employ him as a driver for the evening driving your car if you wanted to go out for a meal & a few drinks etc.
He is working on getting some sort of insurance that allows him to drive other cars fully comp, but is there any legislation he might fall foul of. Its not taxi driving per se, as its the persons own car?
Two immediate thoughts:Hes on the guys insurance for his car. He gets an hourly rate for the work.
Hes thinking of expanding this out and offering it as a service to people. So you'd employ him as a driver for the evening driving your car if you wanted to go out for a meal & a few drinks etc.
He is working on getting some sort of insurance that allows him to drive other cars fully comp, but is there any legislation he might fall foul of. Its not taxi driving per se, as its the persons own car?
Making employment conditional on the client / car owner providing proof that he is insured to drive their car, gives the client / owner a minor headache, but also provides them with peace of mind / reduced risk of future insurance problems. It could be seen as an advantage in terms of professional service, as the driver would have to provide ID etc, and meet their insurer's approval.
But professional credibility will quickly unravel when his first client (the Barrister) and his second client both want him to drive them at the same time.
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