718 GTS 4.0 or 991.2 Carrera T

[diffstar]

Prices seem to be similar, so would you take a lightly used 991.2 Carrera T in manual or a new 718 Cayman GTS 4.0?

[Twinfan]

Cayman GTS 4.0.

I don't do 911s or turbo'd engines

[DJMC]

Twinfan said:

Cayman GTS 4.0.

I don't do 911s or turbo'd engines

Same here, if those were the only choices.

[Purple Man]

I would spend a bit of extra money and go for a 991.2 GTS in manual.
I had a .2 GTS sold it a bought a T, I knew I had made a big mistake as I drove away from the dealers!!

Looking on line there is only one 991.2 4GTS in manual for sale, its at Wilmslow and looks a good spec.
If you can stretch the budget buy a car that feels special.

[SpyderT]

I actually prefer my carrera T over my 981 spyder just to confuse you.

[ags11]

I'd have to say GTS, I have a T though.
I need the seats...Don't overlook the shorter gearing in the T though , 2nd tops out in high 60s, helping the "drive ability".

[Porsche911R]

981 GT4 !!! would be the car would it not vs the other 2 !

[anonymous-user]

I am 57 and starting to realise - after years of driving 911s - that middle aged men look a bit silly in both, but sillier in the Cayster.
So, mountain pass, in the dark? Probably the Cayster.
But to live with as a daily? The 991 every time.

[WCZ]

Purple Man said:

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I had a .2 GTS sold it a bought a T, I knew I had made a big mistake as I drove away from the dealers!!

what made you do this? never understood the appeal of the T just being a base model with -5kg of weight savings and nothing else. the GTS is much more appealing.

[Koln-RS]

WRT the T, never driven one, but for some people I can understand ‘less is more’, and the road tests of the T were quite favourable.

But, as said, maybe it will just be remembered as a ‘base’ run-out model ?

[Wollemi]

Discombobulate said:

I am 57 and starting to realise - after years of driving 911s - that middle aged men look a bit silly in both, but sillier in the Cayster.
So, mountain pass, in the dark? Probably the Cayster.
But to live with as a daily? The 991 every time.

What on earth made you come to that conclusion?

I find it extraordinary

[Slippydiff]

Discombobulate said:

I am 57 and starting to realise - after years of driving 911s - that middle aged men look a bit silly in both, but sillier in the Cayster.
So, mountain pass, in the dark? Probably the Cayster.
But to live with as a daily? The 991 every time.

Quite frankly, at 57 you really shouldn't care what other people think you may (or may not) look like in your chosen car (I'm 57 too BTW)

[Stuart70]

Slippydiff said:

Discombobulate said:

I am 57 and starting to realise - after years of driving 911s - that middle aged men look a bit silly in both, but sillier in the Cayster.
So, mountain pass, in the dark? Probably the Cayster.
But to live with as a daily? The 991 every time.

Quite frankly, at 57 you really shouldn't care what other people think you may (or may not) look like in your chosen car (I'm 57 too BTW)

I am a mere 49, but I agree, what I drive is for me, not for onlookers.

[The Chevalier de Recci]

Stuart70 said:

Slippydiff said:

Discombobulate said:

I am 57 and starting to realise - after years of driving 911s - that middle aged men look a bit silly in both, but sillier in the Cayster.
So, mountain pass, in the dark? Probably the Cayster.
But to live with as a daily? The 991 every time.

Quite frankly, at 57 you really shouldn't care what other people think you may (or may not) look like in your chosen car (I'm 57 too BTW)

I am a mere 49, but I agree, what I drive is for me, not for onlookers.

Another 50+ year old here and whilst I would always say I don't care what 'people' think of me, in truth, whenever I drive my wife's 911 I still feel a (late) middle aged fool. I think there are very few attractively shaped sporty cars a man can drive without either looking like he has borrowed his wife's car (Porsche especially a Boxster) or a sad aging pop singer/footballer (Lamborghini).
I suspect much of the bravado about not caring is superficial.

Anyway just my opinion.

Back to original question 911 every time because 911 and the T is a lovely thing with, albeit just a tiny bit, a bit of specialness.

[Porsche guy]

Slippydiff said:

Discombobulate said:

I am 57 and starting to realise - after years of driving 911s - that middle aged men look a bit silly in both, but sillier in the Cayster.
So, mountain pass, in the dark? Probably the Cayster.
But to live with as a daily? The 991 every time.

Quite frankly, at 57 you really shouldn't care what other people think you may (or may not) look like in your chosen car (I'm 57 too BTW)

I'm in my 70s and I certainly don't care what people think when I'm out in the RS, IMO you're as old as the car you drive.

[Porsche911R]

The Chevalier de Recci said:

Another 50+ year old here and whilst I would always say I don't care what 'people' think of me, in truth, whenever I drive my wife's 911 I still feel a (late) middle aged fool. I think there are very few attractively shaped sporty cars a man can drive without either looking like he has borrowed his wife's car (Porsche especially a Boxster) or a sad aging pop singer/footballer (Lamborghini).
I suspect much of the bravado about not caring is superficial.

Anyway just my opinion.

Back to original question 911 every time because 911 and the T is a lovely thing with, albeit just a tiny bit, a bit of specialness.

Really strange views !

[Taffy66]

Porsche guy said:

I'm in my 70s and I certainly don't care what people think when I'm out in the RS, IMO you're as old as the car you drive.

If i get to your age i hope i'll still be driving the RS of the era, wealth and health permitting..If men over 50 don't drive around in RSs, who does? I wasn't able to afford an RS until i passed 50..Maybe i should have chosen a more lucrative career !
How are you getting on with yours.? Is it as big a step up over the GT3 as i and others feel.?

[Porsche guy]

Taffy66 said:

Porsche guy said:

I'm in my 70s and I certainly don't care what people think when I'm out in the RS, IMO you're as old as the car you drive.

If i get to your age i hope i'll still be driving the RS of the era, wealth and health permitting..If men over 50 don't drive around in RSs, who does? I wasn't able to afford an RS until i passed 50..Maybe i should have chosen a more lucrative career !
How are you getting on with yours.? Is it as big a step up over the GT3 as i and others feel.?

Yes it sure is, I didn't expect it to be much different to my .2 so a big surprise, no track days for me though.

Your idea of seeing who still had their car was a good one and I'll look out for the thread

Regards

[GT4P]

Off topic but currently in a place called Luang Prabang(Laos) and met a woman of 72 who loves to travel in not your average tourist destinations so it's so good to hear of other older people enjoying their passions, so why shouldn't a 70 plus person enjoy driving an RS ! I bet the guy driving the RS is a better driver than a lot of idiots half his age on the roads today! Good n your Porscheguy

Edited by GT4P on Saturday 22 February 15:33

[rob.kellock]

My recent Porsche journey was to go from a nearly new 981 Cayman S which I ran for 2 years and 25k miles to a 997 GTS which I ran for 18 months and 15k miles. I part exchanged that for a new 991.2 Carrera T in March 2018, that car has done 12k miles so far and still feels brand new.

My personal favourite is the T.

Drive one back to back with a 991.2 Carrera and the subtleties start to shine through. I think that Porsche did sprinkle a little magic dust on it before signing off the last ever narrow bodied 911.

The turbo installation is very well done and the car behaves similarly to a larger engined naturally aspirated car more or less all the time.

Cayman 4.0 GTS will be a really lovely car, the reviews I've seen are hugely complimentary and the car will be a very compelling package - 2 boot practicality too. I don't think there are any right or wrong answers here, more a matter of the priority of your personal preferences. You won't get rear seats in the Cayman though (a fabulous excuse for not giving lifts to people you don't want to). New one would be very appealing, built to your own personal spec, with full 3 years warranty.