How to make this place interesting again!!!
How to make this place interesting again!!!
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CarreraLightweightRacing

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2,013 posts

230 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I've just spent the last hour doing something I've never done before; listened to my first podcast to be precise and it got me thinking. Basically an hour of my life has been seemingly wasted but I tell you what, it was one of the most interesting and nostalgic ways to reflect upon what is for me the most significant and important subject in my life: cars. Not just any old cars but a detailed look at what we are now missing in the automotive world today. Since before I and I'm sure most here could even walk, cars played a massive part in our development and still permeate a fair percentage of our daily thoughts.
I just feel we are allowing this passion to be taken from us without a fight; by not sharing the essence of what this subject matter is truly all about. A quick look through the last few years here and on other similar platforms rarely brings up anything remotely interesting. Clive and his GT3'd 962, Bad Obsession Motorsport and the likes are so rare.
Perhaps we should spare a few moments considering ways to bring back the true spirit and drive of what brought us here in the first place. Here is the podcast in question which I'm sure most here can relate to.
Over to you...

Edited by CarreraLightweightRacing on Friday 28th February 06:43

Slippydiff

15,936 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Very profound Rich, now get back to fettling the Alfa, the 996 and your lightweight hairdressers car tongue out

P.S Loved the M3 CS/pickup truck/Citroen C2 story hehe

Edited by Slippydiff on Thursday 27th February 21:24

browngt3

1,431 posts

232 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Enjoyed listening to that podcast last night. Those EVO journos have some great stories to tell.

I think we are all concerned about the future when it comes to our passion and being able to properly enjoy our cars. Not sure what can be done as, for now, the tide sadly appears to be against us. As they point out in the podcast its up to the motor industry in general to protect its interests or perish.

supersport

4,532 posts

248 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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That’s probably because everyone is two scared to sit in their car and do anything interesting in case they mess up the colour coded stitching hehe

Not long now till I blast down to Monaco for the Classic GP. Can’t wait driving

SRT Hellcat

7,197 posts

238 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Hi Richard. Yes I listened to that podcast last night. In fact over the Christmas break I listened to all of the Chris Harris podcasts.
The EV thing just leaves me cold. A mate was at the olympia classic car show last weekend and sent me a link to a company electrifying long hood 911's. He is a classic car guy and he was excited. I emailed him back and said without a flat six singing behind you why would you want one. I never heard back. I just think that too many people just suck up the nonsense spouted and believe the BS. How many people went out and bought diesel cars because they were told they were far less polluting. Pretty obvious that was BS. EV is the way to go so lets all go buy EV's. Nope. That will all turn out to be BS in a few years when they wake up to the fact they are not more environmentally friendly to produce. How will you recycle the batteries. How will the electricity grid cope with the extra demand when it struggles to cope with current demand.
Thankfully the american side of the world are still big into ICE and continue to produce some big hp cars. It will be interesting to see how the big manufacturers survive this movement. I think they could struggle. All of a sudden if the huge revenue gained from fuel duty and the huge revenue gained from the car manufacturers profitability gets wiped out it will be one of those oh f**k moments. What have we done. Bloody idiots the lot of them. For me sound is a big deal for me. That big V8 rumble. That flat six howl. That V10 scream. That big twin Harley. What next for me. Certainly not a hybrid or an EV. Maybe a 720S.

Budflicker

3,799 posts

205 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Meh, I'm just going to listen to Greta, sell the Porsches and buy a Tesla.

I think I'll get a green beanie hat!















Only joking Rich, let's not let them get us down, I'm going to listen to that podcast at work tomorrow and look forward to my next trip to Germany when I'm going to buy you a nice pork lunch yikes

CarreraLightweightRacing

Original Poster:

2,013 posts

230 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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It saddens me to see many a devout car enthusiast buy an EV car. Now before you get all uppity and call me a fall-earther, I am fully committed helping secure our future resources and protecting the environment. "MM Climate Change" is the biggest scam ever attempted; there is no such thing as a static climate; the medieval warm period and ice-ages kind of ruin the idea of man being the cause. Don't get me wrong, man does some truly devastating things to the environment that need immediate attention:

-deforestation
-river pollution
-plastic in the sea
-waste management
-heavy metal mining
-population control (or lack of)

...to name but a few. Look for cleaner energy production by all means, just the whole con, like as mentioned above regarding diesel is ridiculous. EV is not the answer and never will be. The only reason for this is to stifle Russia with it's enormous Gas reserves, The Middle East oil racket and prevent the third world from ever competing.

If no-one buys an EV car there wouldn't be a market for it regardless of what the government thinks is best for you. I feel so sorry for todays younger generation who will have to live through this global scam. This year I'm planning on taking my little Alfa home to Italy to do the Mille Miglia, then the Spyder to the Alps, the CLR996 will be going to Manthey for final chassis development not got a plan for the Elise just yet but still, I'd love to see some real proper interesting car related endeavours spread across these pages bringing the European car scene back to the forefront. We all play a part here guys, nurture and involve your children in your car antics (they are our future), don't be a sheep and buy into this EV BS. If these are truly the last years, you will regret every moment of not using your cars to the full when the final curtain is drawn. I've off to the garage to re-map my Alfa, getting very close now wink

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

286 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
I've just spent the last hour doing something I've never done before; listened to my first podcast to be precise and it got me thinking. Basically an hour of my life has been seemingly wasted but I tell you what, it was one of the most interesting and nostalgic ways to reflect upon what is for me the most significant and important subject in my life: cars. Not just any old cars but a detailed look at what we are now missing in the automotive world today. Since before I and I'm sure most here could even walk, cars played a massive part in our development and still permeate a fair percentage of our daily thoughts.
I just feel we are allowing this passion to be taken from us without a fight; by not sharing the essence of what this subject matter is truly all about. A quick look through the last few years here and on other similar platforms rarely brings up anything remotely interesting. Clive and his GT3'd 962, Bad Obsession Motorsport and the likes are so rare.
Perhaps we should spare a few moments considering ways to bring back the true spirit and drive of what brought us here in the first place. Here is the podcast in question which I'm sure most here can relate to.
Over to you...

Edited by CarreraLightweightRacing on Friday 28th February 06:43
on a willy waving forum where it's a bun fight to show off the lastest PDK RS thing then on here sadly is not the place.
young kids also have zero interest, so it's just a few people like me and you who like cars with no EPS and don't mind them being a bit older.
Every one else will stick to SUV, PDKS and their N spec tyres and expect the Arse licking on their new show off toy when posted.
That's PH today sadly. in the early days forums were a big geeky and in the main geeky people liked geeky cars.
Today SM is all "look at me" and hate.

I do look forward to your 2010 outdated dated spyder plans ;-)
here is a nice pic from my 50th trip of a cheap outdated slow manual car no one todays interested in.



Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 28th February 10:16

browngt3

1,431 posts

232 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
It saddens me to see many a devout car enthusiast buy an EV car. Now before you get all uppity and call me a fall-earther, I am fully committed helping secure our future resources and protecting the environment. "MM Climate Change" is the biggest scam ever attempted; there is no such thing as a static climate; the medieval warm period and ice-ages kind of ruin the idea of man being the cause. Don't get me wrong, man does some truly devastating things to the environment that need immediate attention:

-deforestation
-river pollution
-plastic in the sea
-waste management
-heavy metal mining
-population control (or lack of)

...to name but a few. Look for cleaner energy production by all means, just the whole con, like as mentioned above regarding diesel is ridiculous. EV is not the answer and never will be. The only reason for this is to stifle Russia with it's enormous Gas reserves, The Middle East oil racket and prevent the third world from ever competing.

If no-one buys an EV car there wouldn't be a market for it regardless of what the government thinks is best for you. I feel so sorry for todays younger generation who will have to live through this global scam. This year I'm planning on taking my little Alfa home to Italy to do the Mille Miglia, then the Spyder to the Alps, the CLR996 will be going to Manthey for final chassis development not got a plan for the Elise just yet but still, I'd love to see some real proper interesting car related endeavours spread across these pages bringing the European car scene back to the forefront. We all play a part here guys, nurture and involve your children in your car antics (they are our future), don't be a sheep and buy into this EV BS. If these are truly the last years, you will regret every moment of not using your cars to the full when the final curtain is drawn. I've off to the garage to re-map my Alfa, getting very close now wink
Agree with all of that

Gio G

2,993 posts

230 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
It saddens me to see many a devout car enthusiast buy an EV car. Now before you get all uppity and call me a fall-earther, I am fully committed helping secure our future resources and protecting the environment. "MM Climate Change" is the biggest scam ever attempted; there is no such thing as a static climate; the medieval warm period and ice-ages kind of ruin the idea of man being the cause. Don't get me wrong, man does some truly devastating things to the environment that need immediate attention:

-deforestation
-river pollution
-plastic in the sea
-waste management
-heavy metal mining
-population control (or lack of)

...to name but a few. Look for cleaner energy production by all means, just the whole con, like as mentioned above regarding diesel is ridiculous. EV is not the answer and never will be. The only reason for this is to stifle Russia with it's enormous Gas reserves, The Middle East oil racket and prevent the third world from ever competing.

If no-one buys an EV car there wouldn't be a market for it regardless of what the government thinks is best for you. I feel so sorry for todays younger generation who will have to live through this global scam. This year I'm planning on taking my little Alfa home to Italy to do the Mille Miglia, then the Spyder to the Alps, the CLR996 will be going to Manthey for final chassis development not got a plan for the Elise just yet but still, I'd love to see some real proper interesting car related endeavours spread across these pages bringing the European car scene back to the forefront. We all play a part here guys, nurture and involve your children in your car antics (they are our future), don't be a sheep and buy into this EV BS. If these are truly the last years, you will regret every moment of not using your cars to the full when the final curtain is drawn. I've off to the garage to re-map my Alfa, getting very close now wink
I think you are spot on with your comments...It sounds like you have a lovely collection!

I have involved my son in cars from an early age, now 20 years old, he has petrol in his veins like his dad. I am amazed in the sort of cars his uni friends drive, from modified MK1 Escorts to little Abarths. I will be stealing his Honda S2000 for a nice road trip to France in May, then looking to do an adventure in the 3.2 Carrera late summer.

Like Chris Harris says, EV's are just one trick ponies. I am not giving up on my little petrol fleet for a while...

G

DJMC

3,546 posts

124 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Porsche911R said:
... look at me Arse


CarreraLightweightRacing

Original Poster:

2,013 posts

230 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Budflicker, I will hold you to your offer wink

Hairdresser Slippy, I have never used a comb in 42 years. I think you may be onto something though, I would never have been seen dead in a cabriolet and now I can’t move for the bloody things.

P911R, it is half your fault I ended up with the Spyder. Cracking pic by the way. Would be great to get the trio of UK Spyder demos together for a reunion on an interesting road somewhere.

Gio great to hear your boy has been handed over the baton wink These are my current toys; certainly not to everyone’s taste and many think I’ve committed various serious crimes with what I’ve done to them. For me though they are all very special in their own little way, apologies in advance for them not all donning the Pork badge.






Andyoz

2,920 posts

75 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Budflicker, I will hold you to your offer wink

Hairdresser Slippy, I have never used a comb in 42 years. I think you may be onto something though, I would never have been seen dead in a cabriolet and now I can’t move for the bloody things.

P911R, it is half your fault I ended up with the Spyder. Cracking pic by the way. Would be great to get the trio of UK Spyder demos together for a reunion on an interesting road somewhere.

Gio great to hear your boy has been handed over the baton wink These are my current toys; certainly not to everyone’s taste and many think I’ve committed various serious crimes with what I’ve done to them. For me though they are all very special in their own little way, apologies in advance for them not all donning the Pork badge.

You bd putting a shot like that up!!

Gio G

2,993 posts

230 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Budflicker, I will hold you to your offer wink

Hairdresser Slippy, I have never used a comb in 42 years. I think you may be onto something though, I would never have been seen dead in a cabriolet and now I can’t move for the bloody things.

P911R, it is half your fault I ended up with the Spyder. Cracking pic by the way. Would be great to get the trio of UK Spyder demos together for a reunion on an interesting road somewhere.

Gio great to hear your boy has been handed over the baton wink These are my current toys; certainly not to everyone’s taste and many think I’ve committed various serious crimes with what I’ve done to them. For me though they are all very special in their own little way, apologies in advance for them not all donning the Pork badge.




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Andyoz

2,920 posts

75 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Love the setup of that. Any more details - is there a thread?

D.no

707 posts

233 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
It saddens me to see many a devout car enthusiast buy an EV car. Now before you get all uppity and call me a fall-earther, I am fully committed helping secure our future resources and protecting the environment. "MM Climate Change" is the biggest scam ever attempted; there is no such thing as a static climate; the medieval warm period and ice-ages kind of ruin the idea of man being the cause. Don't get me wrong, man does some truly devastating things to the environment that need immediate attention:

-deforestation
-river pollution
-plastic in the sea
-waste management
-heavy metal mining
-population control (or lack of)

...to name but a few. Look for cleaner energy production by all means, just the whole con, like as mentioned above regarding diesel is ridiculous. EV is not the answer and never will be. The only reason for this is to stifle Russia with it's enormous Gas reserves, The Middle East oil racket and prevent the third world from ever competing.

If no-one buys an EV car there wouldn't be a market for it regardless of what the government thinks is best for you. I feel so sorry for todays younger generation who will have to live through this global scam. This year I'm planning on taking my little Alfa home to Italy to do the Mille Miglia, then the Spyder to the Alps, the CLR996 will be going to Manthey for final chassis development not got a plan for the Elise just yet but still, I'd love to see some real proper interesting car related endeavours spread across these pages bringing the European car scene back to the forefront. We all play a part here guys, nurture and involve your children in your car antics (they are our future), don't be a sheep and buy into this EV BS. If these are truly the last years, you will regret every moment of not using your cars to the full when the final curtain is drawn. I've off to the garage to re-map my Alfa, getting very close now wink
Couldn't have put it better myself. Right now I simply don't have the time to get started on this, but basically if governments were serious about emissions, they's be looking at the issue from a whole vehicle life-cycle perspective, broken down by location, energy production source, and usage patterns. It's far easier to just spout third-hand bks that you have no interest in understanding at the masses so it can be perceived that you're taking the issue seriously. EV's are not the fault of manufacturers - they're the fault of punitive fines that the government imposes on the production of each vehicle that exceeds the emissions targets (which get serious in 2021). As an example VW could face fines of circa 1.2 billion yo-yo's in 2021. As a result they are forced to reduce their average CO2 ratings. All great for the planet until you start to look at the holistic picture, as the rating's don't take anything except emissions from the vehicle during it's use into account. Funny how the same governments seemingly couldn't give two hoots about the emissions caused during the generation of electric to charge all the alternative EV's with, or the DRC cobalt mines, or wider emissions from industry, or what to do with the batteries at the end of their useable lives. Again it's much easier to simply chop some forests down, ship the trees over here, and burn them instead of coal, so that the energy can then be called "renewable"...

Not all kids are blinded by the bullst by the way - when it comes to cars my 11 year old is even more of a luddite troglodyte than me. Seriously...

D.no

707 posts

233 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Holy hell fire! Nurse!.....

THAT. IS. BLOODY. STUPENDOUS!!!!

CarreraLightweightRacing

Original Poster:

2,013 posts

230 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Andyoz said:
CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Love the setup of that. Any more details - is there a thread?
For reference these may be helpful:

Front cover magazine article gives a little introduction here

Some other feedback from PH here

Full breakdown and details here Warning a little time required.

An early development test-drive by our very own cmoose here

All latest and future development here

Apologies if some of the pictures are no longer available. The above should cover all possible mods or development areas you could imagine on a 996.

CarreraLightweightRacing

Original Poster:

2,013 posts

230 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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D.no said:
CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Holy hell fire! Nurse!.....

THAT. IS. BLOODY. STUPENDOUS!!!!
Page 5 on from this thread you may find of some interest. Warning, I cannot be held liable for any mess in your underpants hehe

Slippydiff

15,936 posts

244 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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D.no said:
CarreraLightweightRacing said:
It saddens me to see many a devout car enthusiast buy an EV car. Now before you get all uppity and call me a fall-earther, I am fully committed helping secure our future resources and protecting the environment. "MM Climate Change" is the biggest scam ever attempted; there is no such thing as a static climate; the medieval warm period and ice-ages kind of ruin the idea of man being the cause. Don't get me wrong, man does some truly devastating things to the environment that need immediate attention:

-deforestation
-river pollution
-plastic in the sea
-waste management
-heavy metal mining
-population control (or lack of)

...to name but a few. Look for cleaner energy production by all means, just the whole con, like as mentioned above regarding diesel is ridiculous. EV is not the answer and never will be. The only reason for this is to stifle Russia with it's enormous Gas reserves, The Middle East oil racket and prevent the third world from ever competing.

If no-one buys an EV car there wouldn't be a market for it regardless of what the government thinks is best for you. I feel so sorry for todays younger generation who will have to live through this global scam. This year I'm planning on taking my little Alfa home to Italy to do the Mille Miglia, then the Spyder to the Alps, the CLR996 will be going to Manthey for final chassis development not got a plan for the Elise just yet but still, I'd love to see some real proper interesting car related endeavours spread across these pages bringing the European car scene back to the forefront. We all play a part here guys, nurture and involve your children in your car antics (they are our future), don't be a sheep and buy into this EV BS. If these are truly the last years, you will regret every moment of not using your cars to the full when the final curtain is drawn. I've off to the garage to re-map my Alfa, getting very close now wink
Couldn't have put it better myself. Right now I simply don't have the time to get started on this, but basically if governments were serious about emissions, they's be looking at the issue from a whole vehicle life-cycle perspective, broken down by location, energy production source, and usage patterns. It's far easier to just spout third-hand bks that you have no interest in understanding at the masses so it can be perceived that you're taking the issue seriously. EV's are not the fault of manufacturers - they're the fault of punitive fines that the government imposes on the production of each vehicle that exceeds the emissions targets (which get serious in 2021). As an example VW could face fines of circa 1.2 billion yo-yo's in 2021. As a result they are forced to reduce their average CO2 ratings. All great for the planet until you start to look at the holistic picture, as the rating's don't take anything except emissions from the vehicle during it's use into account. Funny how the same governments seemingly couldn't give two hoots about the emissions caused during the generation of electric to charge all the alternative EV's with, or the DRC cobalt mines, or wider emissions from industry, or what to do with the batteries at the end of their useable lives. Again it's much easier to simply chop some forests down, ship the trees over here, and burn them instead of coal, so that the energy can then be called "renewable"...

Not all kids are blinded by the bullst by the way - when it comes to cars my 11 year old is even more of a luddite troglodyte than me. Seriously...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA5sGtj7QKQ

beer






Edited by Slippydiff on Saturday 29th February 09:27