992 Turbo
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Tonk68

Original Poster:

16 posts

82 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Morning all

Just a heads up. 992 Turbo about to be officially launched!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAUV_ZG0Cdo

r1flyguy1

1,571 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Didn't find the launch feed that entertaining and a bit mundane tbh.

The TTS doesn't look hugely different to warrant a trade in of my current gen1 991TTS and spending +£70k for a new car.

I could have it tuned to match the power for a quarter if that.

I suppose, Execs with company car allowance will make a beeline for it but at present the depreciation in the TTS makes this car just not special enough.

I’ll wait a couple of years and let someone else take the hit wink

Slippydiff

16,032 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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r1flyguy1 said:
Didn't find the launch feed that entertaining and a bit mundane tbh.

The TTS doesn't look hugely different to warrant a trade in of my current gen1 991TTS and spending +£70k for a new car.

I could have it tuned to match the power for a quarter if that.

I suppose, Execs with company car allowance will make a beeline for it but at present the depreciation in the TTS makes this car just not special enough.

I’ll wait a couple of years and let someone else take the hit wink
If you've got the time, listen to Chris Harris/Collecting Cars Podcast in which he interviews Harry Metcalfe, you'll find their comments on new/supercar launches rather closely aligned with yours smile

IMI A

9,955 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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List price for the turbo s cab in Germany £200,000 GBP without options.

The beauty of the 911 turbo or its historic USP was that it could deal with whatever Lambo or Ferrari threw at them as an entry level supercar for much less money in a low profile package. It seems to no longer be a bargain and electric car performance will leave this for dead in a few years.The new electric record breaking VW is doing something like 0-125mph in like 5 secs flat ie faster than an F1 car yikes

Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Weight crept up to 1640Kg which is lighter than i expected..I configured one and its the only new Porsche where i didn't have to tick a single box..Its £30k more than an otherwise similarly specced 992C4S..
The 0-100mph is the most impressive at 5.8s which is 720S league..It'll be another 5 star rated Porsche IMO however wouldn't swap my 991.2GT3 RS for one..
One glaring omission is no 18 ways seats on the configurator which is a must for me on the 992TS..I wonder how much power and price the standard non S Turbo will be..Could be the sweet spot.!

browngt3

1,431 posts

234 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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IMI A said:
List price for the turbo s cab in Germany £200,000 GBP without options.

The beauty of the 911 turbo or its historic USP was that it could deal with whatever Lambo or Ferrari threw at them as an entry level supercar for much less money in a low profile package. It seems to no longer be a bargain and electric car performance will leave this for dead in a few years.The new electric record breaking VW is doing something like 0-125mph in like 5 secs flat ie faster than an F1 car yikes
Utterly pointless though isn't it? Who cares if an electric car can reach 200 in even 1 second. I will take my old air-cooled Carrera any day of the week and happily watch as the electric supercars leave me for dust knowing I'm having a much better time driving my old antique smile

PSB1

4,127 posts

127 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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I expect to get flamed, but I’ve never grasped the acronym TTS. TS I get, but why the double T?

browngt3

1,431 posts

234 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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IMI A said:
List price for the turbo s cab in Germany £200,000 GBP without options.

The beauty of the 911 turbo or its historic USP was that it could deal with whatever Lambo or Ferrari threw at them as an entry level supercar for much less money in a low profile package. It seems to no longer be a bargain and electric car performance will leave this for dead in a few years.The new electric record breaking VW is doing something like 0-125mph in like 5 secs flat ie faster than an F1 car yikes
Actually, its a good point about the acceleration. The 911 Turbo became the icon it is today because it was the fastest accelerating road car money could buy. Wasn't the 930 even in the Guinness book of records for this very reason? Granted this hasn't been the case for many years but I wonder for how much longer it can keep its iconic status. Especially when there's plenty of supercars matching or beating it with electric car performance rendering the whole subject acedemic.

Cheib

25,076 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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The amount of posts on this thread after 7 hours tells you how exciting the car is......

Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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I agree with this hypothesis. Wait until some of the top car journalists drive them, i bet they'll all be in awe on the 992TS breadth of ability.

mhh

1,567 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Taffy66 said:
One glaring omission is no 18 ways seats on the configurator which is a must for me on the 992TS..I wonder how much power and price the standard non S Turbo will be..Could be the sweet spot.!
I'm in the configurator now and 18 way seats are showing as a no cost option.

APOLO1

5,375 posts

217 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Taffy66 said:
Weight crept up to 1640Kg which is lighter than i expected..I configured one and its the only new Porsche where i didn't have to tick a single box..Its £30k more than an otherwise similarly specced 992C4S..The 0-100mph is the most impressive at 5.8s which is 720S league..It'll be another 5 star rated Porsche IMO however wouldn't swap my 991.2GT3 RS for one..One glaring omission is no 18 ways seats on the configurator which is a must for me on the 992TS..
Just noticed the 0-100 time, that's almost as fast a my 918 at 5.52 did at V-Max, but quicker than both a P1 and Lafa, pleased the 18 way seats have now been added. These are so comfortable on the 992. One big point for me on this new one is the addition of the 10 Pot brakes and better cooling. This was always a weak point in my experience on the 991s TTS, when used on track.


Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 4th March 08:39

MDL111

8,544 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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IMI A said:
List price for the turbo s cab in Germany £200,000 GBP without options.

The beauty of the 911 turbo or its historic USP was that it could deal with whatever Lambo or Ferrari threw at them as an entry level supercar for much less money in a low profile package. It seems to no longer be a bargain and electric car performance will leave this for dead in a few years.The new electric record breaking VW is doing something like 0-125mph in like 5 secs flat ie faster than an F1 car yikes
lower profile yes, but in my opinion it was never materially less than a V8 Ferrari. The 360 and the 996 Turbo had a base price within 10k Euros from memory and the 991 T S again was a little less than the 458, but not by much

IMI A

9,955 posts

224 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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MDL111 said:
IMI A said:
List price for the turbo s cab in Germany £200,000 GBP without options.

The beauty of the 911 turbo or its historic USP was that it could deal with whatever Lambo or Ferrari threw at them as an entry level supercar for much less money in a low profile package. It seems to no longer be a bargain and electric car performance will leave this for dead in a few years.The new electric record breaking VW is doing something like 0-125mph in like 5 secs flat ie faster than an F1 car yikes
lower profile yes, but in my opinion it was never materially less than a V8 Ferrari. The 360 and the 996 Turbo had a base price within 10k Euros from memory and the 991 T S again was a little less than the 458, but not by much
It was the very expensive servicing costs and fragility of the cars that never really made them a consideration as a dd for me. 997and 991 has cost buttons to run comparatively over 100k miles.

Deep

2,489 posts

266 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Is it the norm for the Turbo S to be released before the Turbo? Any ideas when the Turbo will be released? I have a 'deposit' down on the Turbo S but not sure I want to spend £165k (specced) right now. I also don't need a car with 100 BHP more than my current 991 TTS...
If previous form is followed then the Turbo should have about 600 BHP which would still make it noticeably faster than my 991.1TTS

The chassis will determine whether I trade up. There will those with so much money that they'll buy it just because they can. For me more power won't clinch the deal, I never feel like my 991 TTS needs more power. It needs to be sharper with a bit more feedback.

Thanks

Edited by Deep on Wednesday 4th March 10:55

mhh

1,567 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Deep said:
The chassis will determine whether I trade up. It needs to be sharper with a bit more feedback.

Thanks

Edited by Deep on Wednesday 4th March 10:55
I agree on the need for more sharpness. I just sent my order in and specced the lowered PASM hoping for more chassis feedback.

2010spy

1,916 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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My deposit is in. I’m loving the Arun Wheels. Does it need the PSE? Anyone heard one yet?

oml130

20 posts

101 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Can I please have thoughts on whether you want the sport suspension -10mm?

Racer26

77 posts

100 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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I've had a deposit in for over 2 years - and will probably order one. But the car is too expensive, and unnecessarily powerful.
What a money spinner it must be for Porsche.
For similar money a simple very lightly specified 992 base and a manual boxster 4.0 GTS would likely be a better bet.
2 cars to spread the mileage across.
A couple and a convertible
A manual and an auto
And both superb cars in their own right.

2010spy

1,916 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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I’m guessing those two cars will cost you more than one Turbo S over three years with the depreciation, running costs etc etc? I’ve got a 987 Spyder as well but don’t get time to drive one car, never mind two. So I’m thinking I will cut numbers and have one ‘great’ car.