Speed limit on Motorway slip road
Speed limit on Motorway slip road
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sidestickbob

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1 posts

87 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Evening all,

I was joining the M6 (eastbound) from the M42. Anyone who has used this sliproad will know it's a big long sweeping 270 degree turn that lasts nearly a mile!

It was dark and fairly late at night with not much traffic around. As I left the M42 and joined the slip road the first gantry showed a 50mph limit so I slowed to this. Carried on round to the next gantry which showed a 30mph limit! WTF. I reluctantly slowed to this, much to the annoyance of the driver behind me. The odd thing is there were no traffic problems whatsoever and no apparent reason for the limit. I crawled round the corner and eventually started approaching the motorway, still crawling at 30, and saw the traffic on the motorway was all doing 60-70mph+. Quite frankly, continuing this madness and trying to join the M6 at 30mph would have been downright dangerous. The effing crazy thing is that I found myself in quite a dangerous situation caused by obeying the speed limit signs.

Am I missing something? Or is this just another oversight by the architects of the not-so-smart motorways that our government are so proud of?

Thoughts appreciated chaps and chapesses.........

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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It's gotta be an MX5.

Sebring440

3,210 posts

125 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Alucidnation said:
It's gotta be an MX5.
Hey, great post! Seriously.

I bet you've got sausages in your freezer, eh? Correct me if I'm wrong.


Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Sebring440 said:
Alucidnation said:
It's gotta be an MX5.
Hey, great post! Seriously.

I bet you've got sausages in your freezer, eh? Correct me if I'm wrong.
rofl


sidestickbob said:
Evening all,

I was joining the M6 (eastbound) from the M42. Anyone who has used this sliproad will know it's a big long sweeping 270 degree turn that lasts nearly a mile!

It was dark and fairly late at night with not much traffic around. As I left the M42 and joined the slip road the first gantry showed a 50mph limit so I slowed to this. Carried on round to the next gantry which showed a 30mph limit! WTF. I reluctantly slowed to this, much to the annoyance of the driver behind me. The odd thing is there were no traffic problems whatsoever and no apparent reason for the limit. I crawled round the corner and eventually started approaching the motorway, still crawling at 30, and saw the traffic on the motorway was all doing 60-70mph+. Quite frankly, continuing this madness and trying to join the M6 at 30mph would have been downright dangerous. The effing crazy thing is that I found myself in quite a dangerous situation caused by obeying the speed limit signs.

Am I missing something? Or is this just another oversight by the architects of the not-so-smart motorways that our government are so proud of?

Thoughts appreciated chaps and chapesses.........
Those signs are absolutely not fit for purpose despite there being many HA officers on here that like to tell you otherwise, your case being a prime example of why not.

Fatball

645 posts

88 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Previous rtc on the bend and fluids on the road? Otherwise, I’ve no clue why.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Sebring440 said:
Alucidnation said:
It's gotta be an MX5.
Hey, great post! Seriously.

I bet you've got sausages in your freezer, eh? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Indeed, you are correct!

ACCYSTAN

1,380 posts

150 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Is the speed limit for slip roads 50?

That’s what my mates van tracker flashes and alerts him to drive at.


SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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ACCYSTAN said:
Is the speed limit for slip roads 50?
Only if there's signage indicating it's a 50mph limit.

Olas

911 posts

86 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Isnt there a chap in a control-room with access to CCTV who is supposed to monitor conditions and update signs accordingly?


unident

6,702 posts

80 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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sidestickbob said:
Evening all,

I was joining the M6 (eastbound) from the M42. Anyone who has used this sliproad will know it's a big long sweeping 270 degree turn that lasts nearly a mile!

It was dark and fairly late at night with not much traffic around. As I left the M42 and joined the slip road the first gantry showed a 50mph limit so I slowed to this. Carried on round to the next gantry which showed a 30mph limit! WTF. I reluctantly slowed to this, much to the annoyance of the driver behind me. The odd thing is there were no traffic problems whatsoever and no apparent reason for the limit. I crawled round the corner and eventually started approaching the motorway, still crawling at 30, and saw the traffic on the motorway was all doing 60-70mph+. Quite frankly, continuing this madness and trying to join the M6 at 30mph would have been downright dangerous. The effing crazy thing is that I found myself in quite a dangerous situation caused by obeying the speed limit signs.

Am I missing something? Or is this just another oversight by the architects of the not-so-smart motorways that our government are so proud of?

Thoughts appreciated chaps and chapesses.........
I’m confused. Which direction is eastbound on the M6? It would normally be described as north or southbound. I’m guessing you were travelling south and then joined the M6 to carry on southbound. If so, is the motorway managed there? I thought it ended on the southbound stretch at the M42. Admittedly I haven’t travelled down that stretch in a year or so, so it could have been upgraded.

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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unident said:
I’m confused. Which direction is eastbound on the M6? It would normally be described as north or southbound.
I read it as travelling north on the M42 and then turning onto the M6 at Junction 7A. From here (ie above Coventry), the M6 runs more east-west than north-south.

silverfoxcc

8,405 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Was it the advisory speed shown.. just a number with the flashing reds OR the figure was in a circle
Mrs Fox always bks me for wafting past the advisorys !! ( She doesn't drive)

Gafferjim

1,337 posts

294 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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silverfoxcc said:
Was it the advisory speed shown.. just a number with the flashing reds OR the figure was in a circle
Mrs Fox always bks me for wafting past the advisorys !! ( She doesn't drive)
Flashing YELLOW, if it has flashing reds then it must be obeyed.

i can only think that there must have been severe speeds set prior to the junction for an incident probably near to or on the exit slip, once past it traffic will speed up, but the next signal for the "ENDS" would be after the entry slip, this would mean that it would also put severe speeds on the entry slip although it's just after any incident.

unident

6,702 posts

80 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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SS2. said:
I read it as travelling north on the M42 and then turning onto the M6 at Junction 7A. From here (ie above Coventry), the M6 runs more east-west than north-south.
It does, but then he’d be travelling north / west depending on your preference which is managed motorway, or east as he says, which isn’t managed motorway. This is what’s confusing me.

martinbiz

3,699 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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ACCYSTAN said:
Is the speed limit for slip roads 50?

That’s what my mates van tracker flashes and alerts him to drive at.
You really do need to sit a retest if you have to ask that.

One of my pet hates following someone crawling down a slip road who then panic and brake at the end when they realise they are trying to merge with traffic doing nearly twice their speed

ACCYSTAN

1,380 posts

150 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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martinbiz said:
You really do need to sit a retest if you have to ask that.

One of my pet hates following someone crawling down a slip road who then panic and brake at the end when they realise they are trying to merge with traffic doing nearly twice their speed
I ask in jest

His company vehicle tracker emails his boss every time he exceeds 5mph over the mapped road limit
His boss got so sick of multiple emails a day because of ‘speeding’ on slip roads he now directs all the alerts to the junk inbox
Very handy for my pal as he no longer gets questioned when speeding

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Gafferjim said:
Flashing YELLOW, if it has flashing reds then it must be obeyed.

Can you post an example of these flashing red lights?

Lee540

1,586 posts

173 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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Saw this on M25 this week.. joining traffic had variable 30 limit applied, main motorway traffic was NSL

RazerSauber

2,901 posts

89 months

Thursday 5th March 2020
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280E said:
Gafferjim said:
Flashing YELLOW, if it has flashing reds then it must be obeyed.

Can you post an example of these flashing red lights?


Ignore the red box. This is obviously one of the later gantries most commonly found on Smart Motorways but the older amber matrices have an additional set of red lamps around them and show a red X with the flashing lamps alternating left and right rather than the usual up and down. You can see the additional lamps on the picture below.



Finding a picture of the older matrices with the red X on display was harder than I thought.

Please tell me this was an attempt at some manner of joke or pedantry?

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 5th March 2020
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Still don't see any red flashing lights associated with a speed 'limit' not displayed in the usual 'red circle' form....