30k Cayman S or......?
30k Cayman S or......?
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I’ve a budget of 30 to 35k to get something nice.

Priorities are:
Must be great to drive
Sensible enough to daily in terms of fuel economy, comfort and maintenance
Low depreciation (Relative to age at least)

This will be my only car. Practicality isn’t a concern, but I will be doing 15k miles a year including some regular longer motorway journeys so it needs to be reasonably refined.

I’m struggling to see past the final run of the six-pot Cayman S as the ideal fit. Any other ideas?

Teebs

5,734 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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Some kind of Lotus? Not quite as 'everyday' as the Cayman but more of an event and a better proposition to own surely? Good indie support depending on location too..

AJB88

15,704 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I've got a 2015 981 S I don't use it as a daily but drove to Italy and back in it last year and it was nice for the long journey.

Fuel isn't that bad if driven sensibly (I hardly do mind you). It's probably the most complete car I have driven and is a pleasure to drive.

Need to part with mine later in the year as need to buy a new house but want to get some summer driving out of it first.

JackReacher

2,274 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I'd probably go for a Cayman, I loved mine. M2 another option.

Be aware that when you use a car like that daily, it can sometimes be frustrating and lose its "specialness". So 2 cars can be better than 1, but if it needs to be one then I dont think you can beat a Cayman.

AJB88

15,704 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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JackReacher said:
I'd probably go for a Cayman, I loved mine. M2 another option.

Be aware that when you use a car like that daily, it can sometimes be frustrating and lose its "specialness". So 2 cars can be better than 1, but if it needs to be one then I dont think you can beat a Cayman.
I agree about loosing specialness.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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Absolutely take the point about any car becoming "normal" if you use it every day. I don't think that's something I can avoid.

M2 Competition is a good shout too actually, although residuals on M cars seem very weak, I guess because they are selling so many of them.

Hammy98

942 posts

121 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I'll likely be changing at the end of the year with the same criteria as yourself.

I reckon the M2 Comp values will tumble a fair bit, as if rumors are to be believed the new M2 will retain RWD and a 6 pot up front.
Coincidentally, I don't think Caymans will hold either as Porsche have announced they are reintroducing the 6 pot variant to the Cayman/Boxster lineup.

In terms of residuals, I reckon a non-comp M2 is a safer bet. I just can't see them going sub 20k and fair mileage cars are available for about 28k, less money to lose compared to the Comp.

Can you get a tidy Evora at this price point? Lotus seem to have strong residuals as another poster mentioned.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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An Evora S is available at that sort of budget, and very enticing it is too. Good call.

LunarOne

7,291 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I currently daily a 2014 Boxster S. I'm not doing as many miles and it's a truly excellent car, but certainly not the most comfortable. In fact I find it quite tiring to do distances in, although like another poster I took mine on a road trip last summer down to Spain through the Pyrenees, across the South of France to Italy, then up through the Alps to Switzerland and back again through German and France. For that kind of driving when you're alert, it's just an amazing car. For motorway miles in the UK I find it quite tiring as you can never really relax because the steering is so quick and direct. My particular car has PASM and 20" wheels, so you might be better off without those for a daily UK car. I had cruise control retrofitted to mine to make motorway miles easier, as I find it so easy to find yourself going too fast in those damned 50mph average speed zones that will be everywhere for the next few years thanks to "smart" motorways that are the stupidest idea ever conceived!!

LunarOne

7,291 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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But here's why you must have one. I know it's a Boxster GTS, but you get the idea.

https://youtu.be/y1LhUzL3qdU


TheAlastair34

369 posts

157 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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Lotus Evora

timberman

1,479 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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LunarOne said:
But here's why you must have one. I know it's a Boxster GTS, but you get the idea.

https://youtu.be/y1LhUzL3qdU
Many years ago I drove that road in a Vauxhall Zafira,
it wasn't nearly as much of an event as that looked, and there was also a lot of other traffic on the road including buses + a goat was milling around in the light house car park probably looking for food and scratching the cars with its horns.

Nice view from the top though.

AshVX220

5,965 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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Agree with some of the above posters, it would be an Evora all day long for me at that budget.

Parsnip

3,258 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I had a (non-S) Cayman for a while - it just didn't excite me - very good in ever measurable way, but less good in the ways you can't measure - it felt very clinical. Sold it for a E89 Z4, which was the right level of unhinged and I loved pretty much ever minute of ownership - it managed roof down European trips as well as scooting round B-roads with its rear end scrabbling about like a dog on a wooden floor.

F-Type maybe? New Z4 (although I can't imagine your budget will get you into a spicy one yet)? Both have options for roof downery - not something I would ever have though I wanted or needed (I live in Aberdeen) but being able to have a couple of thousand meters of headroom at the push of a button was great and defo something I miss.

With regards to "must be great to drive" I guess it depends what you want and what you mean by "great". If I was a steely eyed racing driver who talked about toe and camber all the time, I would have loved the Cayman's handling - the thing drove like it was on rails. As it happens, I am a complete yobbo (I have a Focus RS now, its me personified) - the Z4's slightly unhinged handling made driving way more fun - same with my 350Z - it was a wallowy old thing, but you drove it everywhere with a grin.


aaron_2000

5,407 posts

112 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I think if you want something special, then consider one of these:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

ZX10R NIN

30,521 posts

154 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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I have to say it would be the Evora for me it'll do your 15k annual in it's sleep it'll cost no more to run than the Cayman & be a bit more of an event.

Evora

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

S

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

A simple change of headunit (it's quite a simple job on the Lotus) brings you all the connectivity (DAB Bkuetooth streaming etc) & up to date navigation you'd want when covering the miles.

Pioneer SPH DA230 DAB this is a direct replacement for the existing one.

https://www.pioneer-car.eu/eur/products/sph-da230d...

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

112 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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aaron_2000

5,407 posts

112 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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You can get a pretty much brand new F Type V6 with the manual box for around about your budget too

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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Fair comment by what do I mean about being great to drive - it's very subjective.

I like cars that give a great sense of connection to the road, which flatter and work with the driver. Something that "breathes" with the road and you can feel it tighten or relax it's line based on your inputs. I'm not interested in powerslides, drifting round roundabouts or bonfiring rear tyres, I'd rather it tucked in and gripped than wagged it's tail.

I do like the Jags, but the problem is that they will continue to haemorrhage value.

Definite food for thought, thanks for all the input, it was really useful. Cayman and Evora shortlisted so far. smile

cerb4.5lee

44,241 posts

209 months

Tuesday 10th March 2020
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For your personal requirements I'd definitely go for the Evora or Cayman for sure. From what I read mid engined cars are the best for grip/handling and surefootedness.