21" run flats for non run flats?
21" run flats for non run flats?
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Stig75

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2 posts

79 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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Hi all, I have a new X3 M40i on its way and its on the 21" wheels with the run flat tyres. Just wondering if anyone has swapped the run flats it comes on to non run flats? If so, which tyres have you gone for and thoughts on how the swap has made a difference to ride, handling, tyre noise etc. would be great to hear!? Thanks!

Olas

911 posts

87 months

Thursday 12th March 2020
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run flats are uncomfortable compared to a normal tyre of the same size.
Yokohama for summer/dry, Uniroyal for wet.

Locknut

653 posts

167 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Stig75 said:
... 21" wheels with the run flat tyres...
OMG! They will shake your teeth out.

What size are the tyres, (as in width/profile/diameter)?

hilly10

7,540 posts

258 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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Locknut said:
OMG! They will shake your teeth out.

What size are the tyres, (as in width/profile/diameter)?
Elastic band size I would think, first pot hole, hate to think

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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They are 325/30/21.

If it were me I would change for 315/35/21, to just get that smidge more side wall.

Not much choice though.

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m78b0s11610p160982/Pire...

Olas

911 posts

87 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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19s and a 45 or 50 section will save you a lot of money at the chiropractor. Why 21s and 35s on an 'off roader?

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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Olas said:
19s and a 45 or 50 section will save you a lot of money at the chiropractor. Why 21s and 35s on an 'off roader?
Why indeed. They’ll never ride well, RFT or not, and the first pothole................

Locknut

653 posts

167 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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In fairness to Stig, the question he was asking was would there be an improvement if he changed from runflats to conventional tyres. The answer is "maybe" but the sidewalls are still the same height so they have little springing.

On the other hand, some of the newer runflats have improved greatly so there might be little advantage in swapping over to conventional tyres.

I am running Bridgestone T005 runflats (205/60/16) on an ED version of the 320d and thay are not much different than conventional tyres.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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Also, you have to remember that the 30 profile is a percentage of the width.

So 325/30/21 will give you 9.75mm of sidewall, compare that say a 205/50/16 which will give you 102mm of sidewall, not much in it at all.

Now of course a 325/50 would give you loads more.


OP, have you got the car yet?
Does it feel bad? Or are you thinking it will?



Pica-Pica

16,668 posts

114 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
Also, you have to remember that the 30 profile is a percentage of the width.

So 325/30/21 will give you 9.75mm of sidewall, compare that say a 205/50/16 which will give you 102mm of sidewall, not much in it at all.

Now of course a 325/50 would give you loads more.


OP, have you got the car yet?
Does it feel bad? Or are you thinking it will?
Wow! 9.75mm sidewall really is ‘rubber band’.rofl

Locknut

653 posts

167 months

Saturday 14th March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
... a 205/50/16 which will give you 102mm of sidewall...
Actually the size I quoted is 205/(sixty)/16 which gives 123mm of side wall.

You seem to be having a bad day, gizlaroc! smile

Edited by Locknut on Sunday 15th March 16:15

E-bmw

13,524 posts

182 months

Sunday 15th March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
So 325/30/21 will give you 9.75mm of sidewall,
30% of 325mm...… Really?

RUSSELLM

6,003 posts

277 months

Sunday 15th March 2020
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Damn that Coronavirus.

Even tyre profiles are suffering depreciation.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Sunday 15th March 2020
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I was going to put 9.75cm and then realised we are talking mm on the width so changed it to mm, of course I meant 97.5mm. smile


Locknut said:
Actually the size I quoted is 205/(sixty)/16 which gives 123mm of side wall.

You seem to be having a bad day, gizlaroc! smile
I wasn't referring to your wheels, I was just saying that a popular wheel size is 205/50/16 for many cars, and would be considered compliant, and that is only a few mm more sidewall.

30 profile sounds low, but when the tyres are that bleeding wide, 30% is quite a lot! biggrin

Pica-Pica

16,668 posts

114 months

Monday 16th March 2020
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Of course that calculation only gives the free sidewall height. The actual free sidewall height needs to be calculated by looking up the rolling circumference, working out the rolling radius, and then taken that from the static free radius to get the difference between static and free sidewall height. Typically it will be around 10mm difference.

e.g.
255/35-R19 gives 89mm free static sidewall height, and 80mm laden rolling sidewall height.

(Free = no load at all on tyre; that is the side opppsite that which is in contact with the road)

Stig75

Original Poster:

2 posts

79 months

Monday 16th March 2020
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Thanks all for your inputs on this so far! I have actually test driven one on these 21" RFTs and the ride was surprisingly good, in comfort setting at least! Back to my original question, being, does anyone have any experience in swapping out RFTs on the X3 M40i for conventional tyres? The RFT tyres on the 21" wheels it comes with are Bridgestone Alenza's - front = 245/40 R21 100Y / rears = 275/35 R21 103Y.

Just to point out also that when configuring the X3 M40i you now cannot have the adaptive suspension unless you spec the sports plus package and the sports plus package contains the 21" wheel option only! so I was a tad restricted when specing the car in January. I would have liked to have gone for the 20" wheel, with adaptive suspension and suck up the looks of a smaller wheel (not that 20" is small mind! But on a car a large as the current X3, you know what I mean) but you cant have that spec! Thanks BMW!