Pre-season build up. Part 2
Discussion
So, keeping the histrionics on the why's and wherefore's of the current situation to the other threads and assuming the season does get underway, who do we think will make the best use of this extra development time the teams now find themselves with? Do you think the form book will change in anyway?
I would imagine the big guns will be throwing the additional, unexpected resource and time to next year's cars while the midfield continue to explore what they can extract from this year's one.
Do you reckon they'll get the opportunity of another test ahead of Zandvoort?
I would imagine the big guns will be throwing the additional, unexpected resource and time to next year's cars while the midfield continue to explore what they can extract from this year's one.
Do you reckon they'll get the opportunity of another test ahead of Zandvoort?
AJB88 said:
Ferrari core team probably wont return home.
Their guys are stuck really. Without knowing exactly when the season may begin.. they're basically unable to bring them home - at least until the situation in Italy improves to such an extent they're taken off other countries ban/quarantine lists.It's a s
tty situation for them.They should probably freeze the field and instruct all the teams to get some downtime, especially if they're planning a higher intensity season later in the year with no august break. Inform that nothing will happen without 21 days notice so ferrari etc can go home knowing they'll be able to get out.
We could call this "leadership"
In the meantime someone should obtain a load of hot cars - Clio cups, atoms, m4s whatever, and pop on one or two closed doors minimal staff events in Europe (as most drivers live here) for all f1 drivers that want to attend and have a go, I know this kind of event isn't liked by teams but these aren't typical circumstance.
We could call this "leadership"
In the meantime someone should obtain a load of hot cars - Clio cups, atoms, m4s whatever, and pop on one or two closed doors minimal staff events in Europe (as most drivers live here) for all f1 drivers that want to attend and have a go, I know this kind of event isn't liked by teams but these aren't typical circumstance.
Teddy Lop said:
They should probably freeze the field and instruct all the teams to get some downtime, especially if they're planning a higher intensity season later in the year with no august break. Inform that nothing will happen without 21 days notice so ferrari etc can go home knowing they'll be able to get out.
We could call this "leadership"
Leadership indeed is required. Unfortunately there is no wholesale leader in F1, more like a handful of battling factions with their own interests to serve. And it seems they're all happy to watch and wait for the wheels to fall off rather than be the first to make a plan and take fiscal responsibility for what happens as a result.We could call this "leadership"
Who knows... Perhaps the cost of this seasons disaster might bring about a few changes. It's very clear that the sport as it's currently managed isn't capable of stopping at short notice, so has instead blundered onwards hopelessly and at great expense.
Ferrari have shut themselves down;
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-suspend...
..so very little development going on there during this informal "off" season.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-suspend...
..so very little development going on there during this informal "off" season.
glazbagun said:
How does this affect the rules around development? Could this mean Renault Mclaren/ Redbull furiously developing for this season and rocking up at the first GP with the same steering as Mercedes?
Well, it's entirely possible. Their ability to test will be subject to the same restrictions that apply had the season started properly. It's an interesting possibility. With an unexpected couple of months to hand, who knows what effect this will have when the racing starts. I would imagine a lot of the smaller teams throughing everything they can at it because any financial impact of the current situation won't hit until next year so if they can score decent points this season, then the financial future for them will be a little less rocky.
Actually, that's another question...has the season technically started?
StevieBee said:
glazbagun said:
How does this affect the rules around development? Could this mean Renault Mclaren/ Redbull furiously developing for this season and rocking up at the first GP with the same steering as Mercedes?
Well, it's entirely possible. Their ability to test will be subject to the same restrictions that apply had the season started properly. It's an interesting possibility. With an unexpected couple of months to hand, who knows what effect this will have when the racing starts. I would imagine a lot of the smaller teams throughing everything they can at it because any financial impact of the current situation won't hit until next year so if they can score decent points this season, then the financial future for them will be a little less rocky.
Actually, that's another question...has the season technically started?
Ardennes92 said:
If we lose a third of the season, what happens to powertrain allocation? Keep the same and run harder or reduce pro-rata
The current allocation is three ICE components and two or three of the others, for 22 originally scheduled events. You’d need to be down to 14 events or fewer before you could reduce three to two, so run them harder is going to be the answer. Hopefully! glazbagun said:
How does this affect the rules around development? Could this mean Renault Mclaren/ Redbull furiously developing for this season and rocking up at the first GP with the same steering as Mercedes?
Given that Ferrari have shut down the factory, a number of the McLaren team are in quarantine in Australia and Mercedes have said that no-one who travelled to Melbourne is going near the factory for two weeks, the sensible thing to do (yes, I know, this is F1) would be to call a three week compulsory factory shutdown now, in place of the summer break. Sandpit Steve said:
Given that Ferrari have shut down the factory, a number of the McLaren team are in quarantine in Australia and Mercedes have said that no-one who travelled to Melbourne is going near the factory for two weeks, the sensible thing to do (yes, I know, this is F1) would be to call a three week compulsory factory shutdown now, in place of the summer break.
Maybe all teams could start manufacturing ventilators.They have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
swisstoni said:
Maybe all teams could start manufacturing ventilators.
They have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
not to mention everything from 3d printers to milling equipment and the ability to design test and build new equipment as a matter of routineThey have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
Not a bad idea, have an e-biscuit.
Teddy Lop said:
swisstoni said:
Maybe all teams could start manufacturing ventilators.
They have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
not to mention everything from 3d printers to milling equipment and the ability to design test and build new equipment as a matter of routineThey have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
Not a bad idea, have an e-biscuit.
Would be great PR apart from actually helping out.
swisstoni said:
Teddy Lop said:
swisstoni said:
Maybe all teams could start manufacturing ventilators.
They have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
not to mention everything from 3d printers to milling equipment and the ability to design test and build new equipment as a matter of routineThey have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
Not a bad idea, have an e-biscuit.
Would be great PR apart from actually helping out.
In principle though, maybe there is something the teams can do. Each team is a well oiled army of boffins, and without the sport going ahead they're all bored and short on funds I imagine.. maybe they could be employed by their respective states to find ways of improving care. For example.. could an F1 team find ways a hospital could achieve higher rates of throughput and a more efficient use of resources? I'm sure a competitive commercial team of people could find a few efficiencies that the public sector might have missed..*
-*I'm speaking here as someone who once was a supplier to a local council to maintain their fountains in a public park. Over 20 times we replaced the same pump as it was stolen every night! In the end I felt bad about taking the money and insisted they take a proper think about the fountain. They did, they decided they liked it very much and that a second fountain should be added in case the first breaks down (is stolen). Never trust the public sector to do the best with the resources they have - it's always a case of a hard working front line of staff, directed by complete imbeciles.
swisstoni said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Given that Ferrari have shut down the factory, a number of the McLaren team are in quarantine in Australia and Mercedes have said that no-one who travelled to Melbourne is going near the factory for two weeks, the sensible thing to do (yes, I know, this is F1) would be to call a three week compulsory factory shutdown now, in place of the summer break.
Maybe all teams could start manufacturing ventilators.They have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
TheDeuce said:
swisstoni said:
Teddy Lop said:
swisstoni said:
Maybe all teams could start manufacturing ventilators.
They have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
not to mention everything from 3d printers to milling equipment and the ability to design test and build new equipment as a matter of routineThey have some of the best engineers in the world twiddling their thumbs.
Not a bad idea, have an e-biscuit.
Would be great PR apart from actually helping out.
In principle though, maybe there is something the teams can do. Each team is a well oiled army of boffins, and without the sport going ahead they're all bored and short on funds I imagine.. maybe they could be employed by their respective states to find ways of improving care. For example.. could an F1 team find ways a hospital could achieve higher rates of throughput and a more efficient use of resources? I'm sure a competitive commercial team of people could find a few efficiencies that the public sector might have missed..*
-*I'm speaking here as someone who once was a supplier to a local council to maintain their fountains in a public park. Over 20 times we replaced the same pump as it was stolen every night! In the end I felt bad about taking the money and insisted they take a proper think about the fountain. They did, they decided they liked it very much and that a second fountain should be added in case the first breaks down (is stolen). Never trust the public sector to do the best with the resources they have - it's always a case of a hard working front line of staff, directed by complete imbeciles.
You've dealt with government agencies and think the middle management army in hospitals will take kindly to having their gross incompetence, arse covering work avoiding/needless job justifying laid bare?
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