Greetings from Germany

[HenryMuc]

Greetings from Germany, Munich area.

My names Martin and am originally from north of Brum and have lived here in Bayern since 1992.

Bought my first TVR last May - Cerbera SP6 year 2000 in viper blue 40k miles and engine rebuild by HHC and which was already in Germany so no bother with first time registering etc. according to the car papers it came to North Germany in 2012.

Was certainly an eye opener when seeing what the second owner gave out on engine and gearbox rebuilds, alu cooler etc.

As the fuel gauge didn’t work properly and being in total awe of finally owning a Cerbera I promptly ran out of petrol on the first night of ownership. Apart from that have had a good time with it on most weekends until caught going a bit too fast (first time in 37 years) resulting in a one month ban which was served at my discretion during the cars hibernation. Hibernation is from in Nov and have slowly started to wake it up ready for 01st April.

Have thoroughly enjoyed the posts here over the years and am looking forward to using the search function for various bits and pieces. I have a rough idea of using a spanner etc but till now have never done or needed to do much home maintenance on cars.

One question I have is, is there a detailed plan of the Cerbera SP6 engine bay somewhere here that I can use for reference showing me what all the parts are?

Regards M.

[ukkid35]

Congratulations on your purchase, glad you are having fun

Since you have a SpeedSix you should also look for help on their forum

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&...

Also just reviewing the parts suppliers web pages will help you identify certain parts as well

Keep us updated with the situation in Germany as well, I was hoping to attend a track day at the Ring in May, but that is looking increasingly unlikely to happen

[Byker28i]

Welcome
One question I have is, is there a detailed plan of the Cerbera SP6 engine bay somewhere here that I can use for reference showing me what all the parts are?

Do you have the owners manual? It will all be in there

[Andy_mr2sc]

HenryMuc said:

Greetings from Germany, Munich area.

until caught going a bit too fast (first time in 37 years) resulting in a one month ban which was served at my discretion during the cars hibernation.

Regards M.

Sorry you get to choose when you serve your driving ban???

[Martin_MUC]

Andy_mr2sc said:

Sorry you get to choose when you serve your driving ban???

Correct, you have a time period of 4 months after the offense to give your driving license up at your local police station. In my case (1 month ban) I could collect my license 1 month later from the police station.

[Martin_MUC]

ukkid35 said:

Congratulations on your purchase, glad you are having fun

Since you have a SpeedSix you should also look for help on their forum

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&...

Also just reviewing the parts suppliers web pages will help you identify certain parts as well

Keep us updated with the situation in Germany as well, I was hoping to attend a track day at the Ring in May, but that is looking increasingly unlikely to happen

Thank you for the tips.

From Wednesday in Bayern only supermarkets, petrol stations, chemists can be open to the public. Schools and colleges are initially shut till after Easter - 20th April.

[Martin_MUC]

Byker28i said:

Welcome
One question I have is, is there a detailed plan of the Cerbera SP6 engine bay somewhere here that I can use for reference showing me what all the parts are?

Do you have the owners manual? It will all be in there

Thank you
I have the owners handbook if that is the same thing!
I have noticed some tape around a hose that goes from the small unit found near the bottom of the radiator (also connected to the rad) on passenger side which then runs towards the engine - I’ll see if I can post a photo.

[glow worm]

Oil Cooler ?

[Martin_MUC]

glow worm said:

Oil Cooler ?

This is it - there are two pipes leaving going to the engine and one pipe seems to have tape around it.
I thought this was where I maybe the fluid that was on the garage floor came from but if it is the oil cooler then it wasn't from these pipes as it was a kind of pinky water - probably coolant.
I had the engine running today up to 90 plus and the fans came on but no loss of fluid and the expansion bottle is still full.

[glow worm]

Martin_MUC said:

This is it - there are two pipes leaving going to the engine and one pipe seems to have tape around it.
I thought this was where I maybe the fluid that was on the garage floor came from but if it is the oil cooler then it wasn't from these pipes as it was a kind of pinky water - probably coolant.
I had the engine running today up to 90 plus and the fans came on but no loss of fluid and the expansion bottle is still full.

Looks like the Oil Cooler to me, don't forget the Oil Cooler passes Oil through a Water Jacket from the radiator to cool it. So both Oil and Water pipes connect to it. The Blue silicon pipe is water going laterally, the oil pipes connect on the side. In fact it appears to be mounted upside down on a Cerbera compared to sideways on a Tuscan.

Edited by glow worm on Monday 16th March 17:53

[glow worm]

[quote=glow worm]
Looks like the Oil Cooler to me, don't forget the Oil Cooler passes Oil through a Water Jacket from the radiator to cool it. So both Oil and Water pipes connect to it. The Blue silicon pipe is water going laterally, the oil pipes connect on the side. In fact it appears to be mounted upside down on a Cerbera compared to sideways on a Tuscan.

[Martin_MUC]

Ah okay, so the coolant could have come from the area of the oil cooler but funny that nothing leaked out today when the engine was at operating temperature.

Does the Tuscan have an oil temp gauge? And is this something I should / could fit to the cerbera?

Nice looking engine bay. I need to get working on mine.

Thanks very much for the info.

[glow worm]

Oil temp is on the dash display on the Tuscan MK2 . Without thinking I thought it would come from the MBE ECU, but maybe there's a separate sensor like the water temp (where there are definitely two … one for the dash and one for the ECU). I'm not aware of the appearance of a Cerbera Speed Six dash display.

[Byker28i]

is that a speed 6 only part? I don't recognise it from my AJP. Maybe I haven't looked closely

[Mr Cerbera]

Hi Martin, and ....



There is a Fabulous TVR Group in Deutschland.
They are the TVRiders Blackforest !

Their Leader is Chris Willy.
Pat de Saint owns a Tuscan and has a mass of SpeedSix motor experience.

Jo Wainer is their mechanic and runs 2Performance - https://www.2performance.de/
- a dedicated establishment.

They regularly organise TVR Meets and have a phemoneal amount of knowledge.

They contribute regularly on their FB Page - https://www.facebook.com/groups/121888627880925/

I'm in Luxembourg but have an AJP 4.5 so can't help on that front
(Worcester was my home town).

Hope to see you soon
________________________________

ETA

Here is a site with manuals....

http://tvr-cerbera.co.uk/workshopmanuals.html


Herer is a comment from cerbwill taken fro a thread I started recently.

CerbWill said:

To warm the oil up faster and keep it at a reasonable temperature.

The Speed Six engines use an oil to water heat exchanger so the oil is heated up to, then held around the water temp. The V8s use an air cooled oil cooler just infront of the radiator on the left hand side. The cooler is sized to cope with track use, so on cold days with normal road use the oil in V8s doesn't get warm.

Adding an oil thermostat into the hoses to/from the oil cooler allows oil to bypass the cooler when cold and keep oil temps in a sensible range.

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 17th March 17:05

[Martin_MUC]

Hello Paul
Thank you for the welcome and spending your time listing all the info - much appreciated.

I know of 2 performance and want to get to them for a 12 k service. It’s a bit of a drive but I’ve only heard good things from them and haven’t found anyone in the Munich area yet.

[Byker28i]

Mr Cerbera said:

Herer is a comment from cerbwill taken fro a thread I started recently.

CerbWill said:

To warm the oil up faster and keep it at a reasonable temperature.

The V8s use an air cooled oil cooler just infront of the radiator on the left hand side. The cooler is sized to cope with track use, so on cold days with normal road use the oil in V8s doesn't get warm.

Adding an oil thermostat into the hoses to/from the oil cooler allows oil to bypass the cooler when cold and keep oil temps in a sensible range.

thats got to be the only bit of an AJP that doesn't get warm then - not sure I agree with that? My engine runs around 75-80 water temp on a very cold day according to the ECU, then there's the exhaust manifolds...

[CerbWill]

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=36...

TL;DR - AJP Cerb runs acceptable oil temps in 15 degree weather with no oil cooler. Obviously, add in a cooler and oil will be too cold without a thermostat.

[Byker28i]

CerbWill said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=36...

TL;DR - AJP Cerb runs acceptable oil temps in 15 degree weather with no oil cooler. Obviously, add in a cooler and oil will be too cold without a thermostat.

13 years ago, were we running different oils then? Surely it depends on the oil grading used as well?

[nawarne]

Martin, on the Speed 6 as fitted to the T cars, the oil temp' sensor is located at the bottom of the dry sump tank.

I'm not sure if the AJP V8 engined cars have such an arrangement. I'm sure a temp' sensor could be configured in one of the external oil pipes, if you don't have a sensor on the oil tank?

Nick