EU Reaction

[ntiz]

I had a very interesting conversation with some friends who I do business with whilst in Hungary couple of weeks ago. The group was made up German, Hungarian and French.

Of course the Corona virus came up and I was shocked by the reaction of everyone around the table. The general consensus being where is the solidarity??

Surely when Italy first got hit there should have been an EU wide plan of how as a block it would be dealt with. With nations looking resources to attempt to support Italy and hope to Holt the spread containing it in Italy. For the hood of not only Italy but overall everyone.

Of course what has actually happened has shown the EU up a bit as everyone has reverted to type and gone fk you every man for themselves!! Shutting borders etc.

Which is very much against what the EU is meant to be about. What do we think should there have been a Co ordinated effort?

Apologies if I have just completely missed it in the news if there has been.

[Puggit]

And the Chinese are already exploiting the lack of response by helping Italy out. They've sent planes full of equipment to help out Italy.

The Chinese still remember all the help they received from Italy too in a large earthquake.

[Earthdweller]

The EU has shown itself to be impotent, useless and quite frankly irrelevant

[sugerbear]

ntiz said:

I had a very interesting conversation with some friends who I do business with whilst in Hungary couple of weeks ago. The group was made up German, Hungarian and French.

Of course the Corona virus came up and I was shocked by the reaction of everyone around the table. The general consensus being where is the solidarity??

Surely when Italy first got hit there should have been an EU wide plan of how as a block it would be dealt with. With nations looking resources to attempt to support Italy and hope to Holt the spread containing it in Italy. For the hood of not only Italy but overall everyone.

Of course what has actually happened has shown the EU up a bit as everyone has reverted to type and gone fk you every man for themselves!! Shutting borders etc.

Which is very much against what the EU is meant to be about. What do we think should there have been a Co ordinated effort?

Apologies if I have just completely missed it in the news if there has been.

Some people - "The EU is too controlling"
Some other people - "The EU isn't controlling enough""

[amusingduck]

sugerbear said:

Some people - "The EU is too controlling"
Some other people - "The EU isn't controlling enough""

Is the EU's job not to maintain harmony and unity in the bloc? They're not acting like it, it's every country for themselves at the moment. I've never seen anything like this, although admittedly I only started following the EU in the past decade.

Has it ever been worse than this?

[richie99]

It's only when a country wants something that they drone on about solidarity. It doesn't exist otherwise.

[chrispmartha]

Oh goody anothe NP&E EU bashing thread.

The EU response is here if any wants to read it.

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/heal...

If the EU had intervened with the individual nations policies there would have been ‘meddling EU’ comments, EU let countries do their own thimg ‘EU not doing enough’

[CrgT16]

EU should revert back to be a trade agreement between neighbours and stop interfering in others matters. European countries are very much diverse with their own strong identities and beliefs. Best to make it for mutual economic/trade benefit... nothing else.

[sgtBerbatov]

Earthdweller said:

The EU has shown itself to be impotent, useless and quite frankly irrelevant

Well they've done something that even the most important and loud Brexiter hasn't managed yet.

They've managed to close their own borders.

[chrispmartha]

CrgT16 said:

EU should revert back to be a trade agreement between neighbours and stop interfering in others matters. European countries are very much diverse with their own strong identities and beliefs. Best to make it for mutual economic/trade benefit... nothing else.

Erm isn’t that what the OP is moaning about, them not interfering?

[Ayahuasca]

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[markjmd]

sugerbear said:

ntiz said:

I had a very interesting conversation with some friends who I do business with whilst in Hungary couple of weeks ago. The group was made up German, Hungarian and French.

Of course the Corona virus came up and I was shocked by the reaction of everyone around the table. The general consensus being where is the solidarity??

Surely when Italy first got hit there should have been an EU wide plan of how as a block it would be dealt with. With nations looking resources to attempt to support Italy and hope to Holt the spread containing it in Italy. For the hood of not only Italy but overall everyone.

Of course what has actually happened has shown the EU up a bit as everyone has reverted to type and gone fk you every man for themselves!! Shutting borders etc.

Which is very much against what the EU is meant to be about. What do we think should there have been a Co ordinated effort?

Apologies if I have just completely missed it in the news if there has been.

Some people - "The EU is too controlling"
Some other people - "The EU isn't controlling enough""

And bizarrely, it's often the same people complaining about both in alternate breaths.

[Murph7355]

chrispmartha said:

CrgT16 said:

EU should revert back to be a trade agreement between neighbours and stop interfering in others matters. European countries are very much diverse with their own strong identities and beliefs. Best to make it for mutual economic/trade benefit... nothing else.

Erm isn’t that what the OP is moaning about, them not interfering?

Only in the context of them having acquired that remit where it suits, but ignoring it when it gets difficult.

I don't think there would be any in this country who would have been at all upset if the EU had never morphed into the EU. At which point they wouldn't be moaning about "where's the solidarity" as that expectation would never have been set.

Their inaction then actions have been the least surprising thing about this whole affair IMO. It's the EU MO. And a good reason to be further distanced from it. This is what unnecessary extra layers of politicians always end up doing - they fiddle with stuff rather than sensibly address anything.

[Not-The-Messiah]

Puggit said:

And the Chinese are already exploiting the lack of response by helping Italy out. They've sent planes full of equipment to help out Italy.

The Chinese still remember all the help they received from Italy too in a large earthquake.

If China thinks helping Italy out with a bit of a publicity stunt will make people forget where this all came from then dream on, people will or I hope will remember where the st storm came from and the fact they hid it to save face for so long.

China can go a screw themselves.

[JMGS4]

CrgT16 said:

EU should revert back to be a trade agreement between neighbours and stop interfering in others matters. European countries are very much diverse with their own strong identities and beliefs. Best to make it for mutual economic/trade benefit... nothing else.

Exactly!!! Bunch of useless overpaid and irresposible wasters, fire the f***ing lot of them.

[321boost]

What exactly did you expect the EU to do?

[Randy Winkman]

markjmd said:

sugerbear said:

ntiz said:

I had a very interesting conversation with some friends who I do business with whilst in Hungary couple of weeks ago. The group was made up German, Hungarian and French.

Of course the Corona virus came up and I was shocked by the reaction of everyone around the table. The general consensus being where is the solidarity??

Surely when Italy first got hit there should have been an EU wide plan of how as a block it would be dealt with. With nations looking resources to attempt to support Italy and hope to Holt the spread containing it in Italy. For the hood of not only Italy but overall everyone.

Of course what has actually happened has shown the EU up a bit as everyone has reverted to type and gone fk you every man for themselves!! Shutting borders etc.

Which is very much against what the EU is meant to be about. What do we think should there have been a Co ordinated effort?

Apologies if I have just completely missed it in the news if there has been.

Some people - "The EU is too controlling"
Some other people - "The EU isn't controlling enough""

And bizarrely, it's often the same people complaining about both in alternate breaths.

Exactly. The EU only has powers over a limited number of things. Despite what some people think, they cant just tell member states what to do on any subject. Perhaps it would be better if they could?

[Pesty]

321boost said:

What exactly did you expect the EU to do?

Nothing because it’s a failed experiment

And they lived up to expectations.

Now they need to cut all the globalist st and be a trading group as planned.

[anonymous-user]

When push comes to shove the organisation becomes irrelevant. It was during the refugee crisis and it remains so during this episode.
It should just be an organisation in place to grease the wheels of trade amongst the people of our continent. It wants to be more, it wants to govern, it wants an army, it wants to expand its borders - 'its' borders. Perhaps it's time to pause for thought and question whether that path should continue to be followed, because the only way it can do what it wants, in an effective manner, is through dissolution of national governments to make way for it.

[s2art]

321boost said:

What exactly did you expect the EU to do?

For starters give Italy a grant and incentivise the mighty German economy to build Italy ICU beds and ventilisers.(and any other economy that could supply).