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Edmundo2

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1,427 posts

234 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Hi. Just bought a really nice Cayman 987s with a few mods. Loving it already but think there's a few areas it can be improved further, one of which is the pedals.

The brake pedal sits a good 5-10mm or more higher than the throttle pedal and theres quite a gap between them too meaning it's not as easy as it could be to H&T...The wheel can be a tad low and throttle slightly offset too but that can be accommodated if the pedals were just a bit closer together and at a more similar level...

Can anyone recommend a throttle pedal extension that levels it up and bridges the gap a touch? I can see a few online inc rennline but just wondered if anyone on here has found the same and can recommend a suitable product?

Cheers, Ed

LennyM1984

1,017 posts

92 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I find the 987 controls very well placed for heel and toe. Have you tried playing about with the steering wheel height a bit?

Edit: I have big flipper feet so perhaps that helps...

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

255 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Are you using the heal of your foot to hit the throttle or pivoting on the ball of your foot?

Desert Dragon

1,445 posts

108 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Buy the rennline pedal set. I find exactly the same in my 997. Not an easy car to heel and toe in I don't even bother unless on track and thats more to practice. Its lovely when you get it just right though smile

Edmundo2

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1,427 posts

234 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Hi. Side of ball of foot.

FYI I can do it but having been driving a single seater racer for the last ten years it's clear that really well placed pedals are just nicer. I think the throttle sensitivity could be improved as well so will look at remaps and sprint boosters etc as well. Not sure ill go as far as lightweight flywheel but an option when clutch next needs doing..

Anyway if anyone has "improved" the pedal proximity please advise.

Cheers, Ed

Edmundo2

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1,427 posts

234 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Thanks Desert Dragon.

Re the Rennline can you advise,

- Does it bring the throttle pedal in line with the brake pedal in terms of height, ( by effectively adding a plate on top of stock pedal )?
- Does it make the gap between them closer?
- Does the brake pedal have a cover and if so is this same thickness? If so is it not counter productive resulting in same difference?
- Is straight forward to fit?

Sorry for all the questions but just keen to hear from someone who has them fitted.

Ed

Desert Dragon said:
Buy the rennline pedal set. I find exactly the same in my 997. Not an easy car to heel and toe in I don't even bother unless on track and thats more to practice. Its lovely when you get it just right though smile

LennyM1984

1,017 posts

92 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I may well have imagined this but I vaguely recall reading about somebody in the US who had adjusted the pedal height on his Cayman. He seemed to suggest that it was possible without buying additional parts but I didn't really read it properly.

Maybe try doing a search on the Planet-9 forum?

Edmundo2

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1,427 posts

234 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Hi,

Yes I saw that but think it may be height only and doesn't effect the gap.

Cheers,

Ed

LennyM1984 said:
I may well have imagined this but I vaguely recall reading about somebody in the US who had adjusted the pedal height on his Cayman. He seemed to suggest that it was possible without buying additional parts but I didn't really read it properly.

Maybe try doing a search on the Planet-9 forum?

Edmundo2

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1,427 posts

234 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Hi. Thanks for this. I'm not saying its bad but just that it was an area that could be better and generally the easier it is to do and the more readily the engine blips up the more enjoyable it is. No doubt the more I drive it the more i'll get used to it but that's sometimes the benefit of driving something for the first time in that you evaluate everything with fresh/idealistic eyes...The MC sounds like a good option too.

Chip wizards look like a good option for remap but just weighing up other jobs first re induction/sport cats etc first..

The car feels really well set up and I'm not looking for massive gains but rather just a slight improvements in terms of urgency, noise, bite, feedback etc which when all put together make a real difference

Ed


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Steve Rance

5,453 posts

255 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Edmundo2 said:
Hi. Side of ball of foot.

FYI I can do it but having been driving a single seater racer for the last ten years it's clear that really well placed pedals are just nicer. I think the throttle sensitivity could be improved as well so will look at remaps and sprint boosters etc as well. Not sure ill go as far as lightweight flywheel but an option when clutch next needs doing..

Anyway if anyone has "improved" the pedal proximity please advise.

Cheers, Ed
Understood. I started in single seater racing so I understand where you are coming form. I found that when moved on to racing GT and saloon cars I had to adapt my HT technique. Now I have one technique for single seaters and narrow footwelled cars (caterhams etc) and one for cars with pedal boxes that have more room and wider spacing between the pedals. Actually I prefer the technique that i use for GT cars. the ball of my foot is centrered on the brake pedal and I find that it is easier to modulate braking, apply decent pressure to get to threashold and give me a quicker transition to throttle.


edc

9,498 posts

275 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I used I think it was the Designtek pedals on my 986. They are covers so you get a bigger pedal area ie closer together.

Edmundo2

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1,427 posts

234 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Great thanks I'll take a look.

Ed

edc said:
I used I think it was the Designtek pedals on my 986. They are covers so you get a bigger pedal area ie closer together.

frayz

2,807 posts

183 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Personally find the pedals on my 987 with GT3MC perfect for H/T. Not driven a stock Cayman with any purpose to know how much difference the GT3 MC makes.

Having said that I’m no racer like you boys, just a “have a go hero” that loves driving a manual trans and the occasional track day.

I also use the ball of my foot as a fulcrum method.